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20. Russia won't invade Ukraine because

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:01 AM

Apr 2014

it can't invade Ukraine when it already has invaded Ukraine.

Everyone wants to compare this crisis to 1914 or 1938. I say it's more like 2001. This crisis is Putin's Trifecta, his singing of God Bless America on the Capitol steps. The concept of regathering the former Soviet Republics is popular among his base (i.e., everyone excluding Moscow intellectuals and certain ethnic groups.) He has retaken the media and introduced Patriot-Act-like laws aimed at solidifying control. Best of all, the resurgence in patriotism gives cover for the continued fleecing of Russia by the kleptocrats and ensures them several more decades of power. A few NATO jets in Poland and the Baltic states are useful for Putin's internal security, WWIII would only ruin the fun for the kleptocrats.

Well, maybe I'm wrong but watching this crisis play out I sympathize with thinking Russians who must feel like I did in 2001.

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Britain, France deploy jets near Ukraine [View all] davidn3600 Apr 2014 OP

They are nuts...crazy..stupid, foolish..and idiotic.. Stuart G Apr 2014 #1

That's fine as long as in fairness we also ask why are the Russians looking totodeinhere Apr 2014 #2

Yes, they are indeed...........but....... Stuart G Apr 2014 #3

Lithuania and Poland are members of NATO geek tragedy Apr 2014 #4

So what??? Stuart G Apr 2014 #6

Russia would be doing to Lithuania the exact same thing it's doing geek tragedy Apr 2014 #7

Vladimir Putin, Russian Neocon:How Russia's president resembles the American hawks who hate him most pampango Apr 2014 #10

The last point is the most crucial. geek tragedy Apr 2014 #13

They aren't near the Russian/Ukrainian border, though. nt EmilyAnne Apr 2014 #18

There may now be only one way ballyhoo Apr 2014 #5

Does It Involve Gypsies, Sir? Or Just Jews.... The Magistrate Apr 2014 #41

Is something hotter here, say oil, than the media heaven05 Apr 2014 #8

We won�t invade Ukraine, Moscow pledges bemildred Apr 2014 #9

About as convincing as John Boehner's claim to be 'hell-bent' geek tragedy Apr 2014 #12

Seems better than threats of imminent invasion and jet-waving. bemildred Apr 2014 #14

Russian troops operating inside Ukraine seems, to me anyways, geek tragedy Apr 2014 #17

I always like it better if they are talking nice rather than making threats. bemildred Apr 2014 #19

you know at least as much as I. geek tragedy Apr 2014 #21

I find not going to war yet very encouraging. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #22

i view war as already having commenced in a low-intensity manner geek tragedy Apr 2014 #23

Low intensity war, propaganda war, sanctions war, etc.: are all better than real war. bemildred Apr 2014 #24

indeed but the question is where things go from here geek tragedy Apr 2014 #26

Which situation is ubiquitous, and still better than being Iraq or Syria or many others. bemildred Apr 2014 #28

but how long will it continue to be a source of conflict geek tragedy Apr 2014 #31

You got me. bemildred Apr 2014 #32

individual and collective reason diverge from one another geek tragedy Apr 2014 #34

Just pointing out that it is hard to reason about something when you can't agree on any premises. bemildred Apr 2014 #38

reason has its limits in an unreasonable world nt geek tragedy Apr 2014 #39

Yeah, and that's what I'm saying, we are there. bemildred Apr 2014 #40

Well, Russia has gotten pretty much everything it wanted, the only geek tragedy Apr 2014 #42

You Are Right, Sir, About Who Would Be Dominant In A China To Russia 'Marriage' The Magistrate Apr 2014 #33

better a surrender in private than a public display of humility think some nt geek tragedy Apr 2014 #35

True, Sir, They Do, But In Fact, the Former Stings Longer.... The Magistrate Apr 2014 #36

Russia tends to be about 50 years behind its counterparts geek tragedy Apr 2014 #37

There Is Something To That, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #25

ay there's the rub geek tragedy Apr 2014 #27

Those Are The Right Words, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #15

Britain, US seek stolen Ukraine assets bemildred Apr 2014 #11

I Do Like The Financial Skullduggery Being Floated, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #16

Russia won't invade Ukraine because mikeyDE Apr 2014 #20

Jingo politics is popular anywhere you go. bemildred Apr 2014 #29

It Is An Old Stand-By, Sir... The Magistrate Apr 2014 #30