Concerns growing about militia members at Bundy ranch

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126. Mormon Militia and the Mountain Meadows Massacre

Cliven's great great grandfather is Dudley Leavitt.

Do you know about the Mountain Meadows Massacre?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

"The militia, officially called the Nauvoo Legion, was composed of Utah's Mormon settlers (members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or LDS Church). Intending to give the appearance of Native American aggression, their plan was to arm some Southern Paiute Native Americans and persuade them to join with a larger party of their own militiamen—disguised as Native Americans—in an attack. During the militia's first assault on the wagon train, the emigrants fought back and a five-day siege ensued. Eventually fear spread among the militia's leaders that some emigrants had caught sight of white men, and had likely discovered the identity of their attackers. As a result militia commander William H. Dame ordered his forces to kill the emigrants."

That is right. The Mormon polgaymist commune settled in Bunkerville around 1877. Some that came were people involved with the Mountain Meadows massecre. Mormons using indians (much like the Boston Tea Party) to kill white immigrants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunkerville,_Nevada
http://www.mesquitenv.gov/mesquite-highlights/history

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Arlene Jefry Tober • 16 hours ago
You are not sure that maternal lineage legally matters? Are you serious?

The reason the 'place' was purchased in 1948 was that was when his parents were a young couple just starting out. Obviously family land was offered.

If you go to the BLM site you will see that the BLM did not get into tracking cattle on the lands in western states until the late 40s and into the 50s, so there is not record of who ran what cattle where before that point in time . . . often to the 70s in different areas. No one is going to have record of "IF" cattle were run on the land by family prior. I don't make too much of that.

Neither of my husband's grandparents had birth certificates. That doesn't mean that they were not born. It meant a heckuva time getting Metis certificates, mind you, in this world where people seem to believe if there was no paper record it did not happen . . . hard to explain the presence of his mother.

Cliven's ancestral rights come from these ancestors in this order: Cliven's mother Margaret Bodel JENSON-Bundy - (Cliven's grandmother), Margaret's mother; Abigail Christina ABBOTT-Jenson - (Cliven's great grandmother); Mary Jane LEAVITT-Abbott. (Abigail "Christina" Abbot-Jenson's mother); Cliven's great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt, (Mary Jane Leavitt-Abbott's father).

Rootsweb is the search for the certificates. This sight won't let me leave the link.

Jefry Tober Arlene • 3 hours ago
Arlene it is a delight to be able to talk to someone about the history of this region. I always appreciate anything regarding history,settlement of the west, Native Americans, homestead, etc. I am most interested in learning how Bundy and his relations interacted with the Paiute.

From the Mormon perspective they were bullied by non mormons and the US government.

From the Paiute perspective the Mormon monopolized the water and brought in too many cows and overgrazed the area.

From the white perspective we were murdered in schemes like the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

You have water rights affiliated to your real property nothing more and that is on paper. This is NOT the State of Deseret. We told you once and we will tell you again and again. No you can not make a theocratic state out of our country. You were once citizens of our country before the fraud of your religion was imagined.

You trashed the desert with your cows and I have been working for 30 years to end that.

A Mormon judge ruled against Clivens crazy talk. Better find better lawyers because I personally find you a threat with your guns and Militia's not the US government - me. Get your damn cows off public land and keep it on your private land. It is long done Clark County has the grazing allotment. You know it I know it. You need to get out of 1877 and move into 2014. I think you would have more savvy if you thought of it as a matter of overpopulation rather environment.

Mining fizzled in 1905, grazing fizzled in 1993 (which is Bundy's damn fault). recreation brings in more dollars. FACT. maybe that Bunkervile commune might invest their cattle herd to the Mormon polygamy sects in canada or mexico.

If Bundy has a right why not the Paiute?

Arlene the whole story is going to come out. I sure hope there are no child brides on that ranch. Right now you are riding on a wave of novelty coupled with frustration of cronyism and dysfunction of this government. You are capitalizing on a lie and a fraud. Reid and BLM are no saints either but not those Bundys/Leavits.

For the American public this appeared out of nowhere, but we in the west know this has been brewing for quiet awhile. We The People need a public discovery of ALL of the facts. All of the players Bundy, Clark County, BLM, Reid etc etc etc

Whatever proof Bundy has regarding his illusionary water rights he better prove it. All of this legal mumbo jumbo.... The Bunkerville Mormon commune stole the water from the Paiute. You know they do ceremony up in that allotment to this day correct?