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Swede Atlanta

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13. No, No, No........

Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:06 AM

Apr 2014

The federal interstate system is paid for by my state and federal taxes. I believe the federal government stands for a substantial part of work on the interstate system on some kind of a share with the states.

Already here in Georgia they have established tolls to use the HOV lane in some areas around Atlanta.

This is really making our federal interstate highways a pay-to-go system. I am already paying federal and state income taxes as well fuel taxes.

Under a toll system the rich driving their $100K Porsches on their way to their job that pays them $250K a year with all of their cheese tax loopholes pay, axle for axle, the same toll as the poor person driving their 1997 Toyota Corolla with 250K miles on it on their way to a job paying the minimum wage.

What is fair about this system?

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White House opens door to tolls on interstate highways, removing long-standing prohibition [View all] Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 OP

That is sooo much better than eliminating some of the tax loopholes I read about yesterday. djean111 Apr 2014 #1

Indiana already sold their Turnpike (I80/I90) liberal N proud Apr 2014 #2

Yes, Mitch Daniels dotymed Apr 2014 #25

To be fair. You had to pay to use on that road before it was "leased" out. LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #36

True liberal N proud Apr 2014 #43

To be fair Aerows Apr 2014 #94

I totally agree on that point. LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #99

Yup, this is our tax breaks at work n/t aggiesal Apr 2014 #62

Is this the New America newfie11 Apr 2014 #3

They want it all. CrispyQ Apr 2014 #40

That is it, precisely! FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #71

Well if you plan ahead Aerows Apr 2014 #95

So much for the open road... Thor_MN Apr 2014 #4

Why, that's obviously the only solution there is deutsey Apr 2014 #5

He's trying to out-do Clinton in being a business sellout n/t n2doc Apr 2014 #6

Bill ain't going to like that. bvar22 Apr 2014 #97

Just more decay ... GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #7

I love this game! RandiFan1290 Apr 2014 #8

^^^That's it!^^^ Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #84

ALEC favors this: Cooley Hurd Apr 2014 #9

Do we know how much $$ Koch Bros. is giving to Dem Party? Mondavi Apr 2014 #92

The "toll road" part of I-95 is a new bypass n2doc Apr 2014 #10

Half of I44 in Oklahoma has been toll roads my entire life and always will be. CBGLuthier Apr 2014 #11

The rules... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #12

I-88, I-90 and I-94 in Illinois have always been toll roads. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #53

Grandfathered in dbackjon Apr 2014 #83

No, No, No........ Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #13

Exactly, Swede, it's a regressive tax. Even if they don't CALL it a tax. nt raccoon Apr 2014 #23

Socialist :) n/t seabeckind Apr 2014 #39

What other "govt" programs will convert to "pay as you go" Supersedeas Apr 2014 #85

NO!!!!! Just up the fuel tax a penny or two. groundloop Apr 2014 #14

An electric car could drive coast to coast and not pay one penny in gas tax. PADemD Apr 2014 #20

I did not see a post about not voting. dotymed Apr 2014 #30

+1 million Louisiana1976 Apr 2014 #81

I can see a Supreme Court Case in the Making Demeter Apr 2014 #15

F*CK NO! 4dsc Apr 2014 #16

I'll bet this will be a big voter turnout machine for the Dems this fall n2doc Apr 2014 #17

Not from the Borowitz Report... klook Apr 2014 #18

change you can believe in Enrique Apr 2014 #19

This absolutely fucks over poor people. Lars39 Apr 2014 #21

Expect delays. Nitram Apr 2014 #22

Would you support a hike in the gas tax? perdita9 Apr 2014 #26

Roads cost money perdita9 Apr 2014 #24

Bullshit. Atman Apr 2014 #31

I don't disagree with you but this approach is extremely regressive......... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #33

So many times these things get convoluted seabeckind Apr 2014 #45

Spot on underpants May 2014 #108

Right-wing talking points cost us far more. n/t Orsino May 2014 #110

Absolutely disgusting regressive bullshit. stillwaiting Apr 2014 #27

Is there anything he won't eventually cave on, to satisfy the "free market" types? kysrsoze May 2014 #105

But don't forget.. sendero May 2014 #109

Has anyone been to Dallas? Blanks Apr 2014 #28

Yes, there's no toll booth tammywammy Apr 2014 #91

A two for...... Trust Buster Apr 2014 #29

Good way to extract more money from the working class abelenkpe Apr 2014 #32

This is a huge problem! Every opportunity they increase our costs to live and work! Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #34

more money squeezed heaven05 Apr 2014 #35

When our country is an empty husk? CrispyQ Apr 2014 #44

actually heaven05 Apr 2014 #50

Yes, the bullying is everywhere. CrispyQ Apr 2014 #55

thank you heaven05 Apr 2014 #56

+1000 It is nursed in the culture and in our media. woo me with science May 2014 #104

They're just determined to milk us for everything they possibly can . . . Brigid Apr 2014 #37

I might question the "they" seabeckind Apr 2014 #41

Now, can we talk about our transportation systems? seabeckind Apr 2014 #38

Bill Clinton's fourth term. CrispyQ Apr 2014 #42

Reagan's 9th! adirondacker Apr 2014 #74

Touche! CrispyQ Apr 2014 #76

Thanks. Alkene Apr 2014 #46

Tax the super-rich, tax the corporations Cal Carpenter Apr 2014 #47

Par for the course....... ballyhoo Apr 2014 #48

Some states already collect tolls, that require some connection to OUR Federal paid roads? Sunlei Apr 2014 #49

White House opens door to more regressive taxes seveneyes Apr 2014 #51

Who is that man in the Oval Office? Lasher Apr 2014 #52

Will multinational corporations have to pay a toll think Apr 2014 #54

Is this real? Xyzse Apr 2014 #57

San Diego built a privately owned toll road in South County JayhawkSD Apr 2014 #58

Changetastic! progressoid Apr 2014 #59

Hopeultimate! Aerows Apr 2014 #96

Telecommute! Telecommute! Telecommute! kentauros Apr 2014 #60

One average 18-wheel truck causes more highway wear and tear than 1,000 cars aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2014 #61

Large trucks 2naSalit Apr 2014 #65

The attached article aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2014 #69

Then the tolls 2naSalit Apr 2014 #72

And that's why in my opinion no tolls are better aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2014 #73

The tolls 2naSalit Apr 2014 #75

Umm. You can switch to more locally produced food, etc. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #80

Too bad we decided rail lines were sooo 19th century NickB79 Apr 2014 #87

Nah, rail accounts for about 50% of commerce. joshcryer May 2014 #102

I thought the Constitution already forbade packman Apr 2014 #63

"User fees" for highways and other public goods is a bad idea. laurent Apr 2014 #64

And here in MO... freebrew Apr 2014 #66

I have no problem with this. Gas taxes aen't enough to keep roads well maintained. And yellowcanine Apr 2014 #67

The third way...eh!...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #70

I don't know what that means. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #77

Anyone driving 95 to DC is paying big tolls.... Historic NY Apr 2014 #68

Auto travel is heavily subsidized both in terms of roads and environmental costs. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #78

You bring up an excellent point - ease of transportion is an hedgehog Apr 2014 #88

Some you really need to got out this county more, compare our roads to France SpartanDem Apr 2014 #79

And the income tax systems in those countries are much more progressive than here.... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #90

FUCK THIS ADMINISTRATION dbackjon Apr 2014 #82

So, so sick of him, his adminstration and all his fucking bullshit.Change we can believe in, my ass! kath Apr 2014 #100

+10000000000000000000 woo me with science May 2014 #103

Shifting the tax burden further down the ladder. Ash_F Apr 2014 #86

So not only do we have to subsidize the oil industry...... DeSwiss Apr 2014 #89

But President Obama isn't the White House Aerows Apr 2014 #93

I think you covered all the bases...... DeSwiss May 2014 #101

That's a mighty fine suit Jesus Malverde May 2014 #107

I could have sworn the gasoline taxes were supposed to pay for road upkeep. niyad Apr 2014 #98

How many highways could we pay for if we didn't stick our nose in every other countries affairs? Obnoxious_One May 2014 #106