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143. So you actually don't think the international disclosures . . .

Thu May 1, 2014, 03:37 AM

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of covert operations by Snowden/Greenwald/Poitras didn't have any effect on terrorist operations at all? You have to know that they garnered info that helped them, just as we did domestically about the scope of NSA operations.

Sorry, but it still amazes me of the naivete of Snowden, and now the recklessness/irresponsibility of Greenwald/Poitras to think that it's a good idea to disclose details of covert operations of their own country.

And again, as I said earlier in this thread, the domestic revelations of 4th amendment violations against citizens was a good thing and Snowden is to be commended, but the international stuff — nah, it borders on, or even crosses over to sedition. And now he's a defector to that beacon of human rights, Russia.

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Edward Snowden set to leak secrets about Arab leaders - report [View all] cqo_000 Apr 2014 OP

Guess he wants more attention. He's not doing this to help bring about peace. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #1

Agreed +1000 rpannier Apr 2014 #2

While the rest of the world is fighting, his buddy Putin can put the old gang back together... MADem Apr 2014 #3

I agree perdita9 Apr 2014 #44

BINGO! dawn frenzy adams Apr 2014 #115

He's a ratfucker with delusions of grandeur. Cha Apr 2014 #8

Nicely put... Vietnameravet Apr 2014 #46

You might be going against the grain, here on DU. Oh, well, who cares. demosincebirth Apr 2014 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #155

Yeah, and that peace thing was going so well, too. merrily Apr 2014 #11

That isn't a justification for making it worse. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #12

We don't yet what will happen after the disclosures, but the info belongs to the 100%, not only merrily Apr 2014 #14

Perhaps Snowden should put that theory to the test and release something about Bolivia... brooklynite Apr 2014 #33

What a peculiar reply to my post. merrily Apr 2014 #35

Never mind Bolivia, how about Russia? Of course, he wouldn't dare! MADem Apr 2014 #66

This has gone too far . . . brush Apr 2014 #60

At this juncture, we don't know if the OP story is true, let alone what Snowden will merrily Apr 2014 #68

Below is a link from a recent DU post . . . brush Apr 2014 #91

Whether someone takes that story at face value probably depends on what they already merrily May 2014 #135

So you actually don't think the international disclosures . . . brush May 2014 #143

I didn't say that, now, did I? merrily May 2014 #149

Well pls explain what your post meant . . . brush May 2014 #167

I have no idea what you did not understand or why you don't understand it. merrily May 2014 #168

Bullshit. gcomeau May 2014 #154

Actually, it isn't always. Wikileaks proved that. merrily May 2014 #157

That private diplomatic correspondence... gcomeau May 2014 #160

I said US information belongs to the 100%, not ONLY to the plutocrats. merrily May 2014 #161

In response to this thread... gcomeau May 2014 #163

I have addressed several things. merrily May 2014 #164

Sigh... gcomeau May 2014 #165

The US did not disclose it, though. merrily May 2014 #166

They failed to keep it secret. It doesn't matter why. gcomeau May 2014 #169

As I said, I'm off to other threads, but Snowden is irrelevant to me. merrily May 2014 #170

well played...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #29

Thanks. merrily Apr 2014 #36

Back Atcha Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #41

the information is so important we have to wait for it. stonecutter357 Apr 2014 #27

Apparently, Assad (wait for it) Arkana Apr 2014 #109

BAAAH-HA-HA dawn frenzy adams Apr 2014 #117

oh crap so do i. stonecutter357 Apr 2014 #133

Snowden is Putins mouthpiece now, because in August? his Putin invite expires! Sunlei Apr 2014 #47

He sings for his supper!! Maybe the devil, maybe the lord, but he's gotta serve somebody! MADem Apr 2014 #67

Thank you for the awesome music, we listen while we 'work'! Sunlei Apr 2014 #70

I don't care if he's in Putin's back pocket or someone else's aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2014 #69

We already know, /w old saudi oil family Bush "shenanigans" & Cheney a citizen of Dubai ;) Sunlei Apr 2014 #72

Would you like to know the truth if revealing diplomatic efforts endangers allies pnwmom Apr 2014 #99

I doubt people would be so concerned if it was about Israeli leaders. former9thward Apr 2014 #134

But you won't be hearing all of the information. Just like you haven't seen anything revealed okaawhatever Apr 2014 #107

+1 treestar Apr 2014 #58

I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #98

So, less information is better than more information. Psephos Apr 2014 #110

Well, no. Lotta deadly hand-forcing, though. aquart May 2014 #156

I am my own nation, and that's the one I care about. Psephos May 2014 #162

No man is an island (and it's bloody silly to think so). aquart May 2014 #173

I expect better from you, Aquart. n/t Psephos May 2014 #174

.... DeSwiss Apr 2014 #129

The Arab world has been hiding behind the Bush Family too long. I want their secrets revealed. McCamy Taylor Apr 2014 #4

Most government secrets should be revealed. merrily Apr 2014 #9

Revealing our allies and their secrets damages our ability to carry out sensitive diplomatic pnwmom Apr 2014 #13

You keep saying things like that, but that does not make them true. merrily Apr 2014 #15

No, logic and common sense makes them true. We have agents working undercover in countries pnwmom Apr 2014 #16

Iran probably knows who they are better than our bureacrats so and certainly better than we do. merrily Apr 2014 #17

You have no basis for thinking that's "probably" true -- just wishful thinking. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #18

I have more basis than you do. merrily Apr 2014 #19

thank you... druidity33 Apr 2014 #28

You're welcome. Full disclosure, though: I am less concerned with Snowden as an individual than I merrily Apr 2014 #30

precisely why i'm thanking you. nt. druidity33 Apr 2014 #34

LOL! Fair enough. merrily Apr 2014 #37

He has already exposed at least one NSA agent in the field, through poorly redacted pnwmom Apr 2014 #97

It is public property Ash_F Apr 2014 #108

So is the White House but that doesn't mean everyone can live in it. pnwmom May 2014 #140

Oh, come on... nikto May 2014 #139

Right. So we should be as hypocritical as they were. pnwmom May 2014 #141

. nikto May 2014 #178

I doubt that the names of agents will be revealed. I don't think that Snowden himself JDPriestly Apr 2014 #39

This is the sort of thing that can happen. Snowden doesn't care but we should. pnwmom Apr 2014 #96

The tension arose because Australia was snooping on the president of Indonesia. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #111

Allies have always shared information with each other. But Snowden is making that much harder. pnwmom Apr 2014 #112

We really can't condemn the Russians for their heavy-handed Putin government if we allow JDPriestly Apr 2014 #126

Oh, please. You think we have secret agents in Iran to "maintain peace in the region"? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #106

yes, yes, yes! nt. druidity33 Apr 2014 #120

+1 no message laurent Apr 2014 #77

If it's about Syria, no doubt it will boost Putin's ally...Assad. nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #25

You only get one grave. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #51

our allies?! frylock Apr 2014 #76

Oh, BOY! OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #5

Arab leaders, or the billionaires that run the U.S. tofuandbeer Apr 2014 #6

The SCOTUS orchestrated through the last century, a government....... nolabels May 2014 #150

+1 tofuandbeer May 2014 #159

Hey!!! What about the SAUDIS??? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #7

Wait merrily Apr 2014 #20

That is where the dirt is buried, miles deep. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #40

What's sad is when someone exposes they're playboys.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #92

I hope this report is correct. The fewer secrets from the 99%, the better. merrily Apr 2014 #10

Truth is better than lies and obfuscation nikto Apr 2014 #21

Not always. It's a bit simplistic to think that truth is what is called for msanthrope Apr 2014 #24

Defending government and taking everything it says at face value (or pretending to) is NOT merrily Apr 2014 #31

That's a rather broad jump you are making. nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #48

Not really. merrily Apr 2014 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author msanthrope Apr 2014 #53

Sorry, I just don't do that kind of thing. merrily Apr 2014 #54

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #55

As I had posted to you on that thread, that was not why I welcomed her. merrily Apr 2014 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author msanthrope Apr 2014 #62

Of course, it does. I noticed her name and others on the new poster list and merrily Apr 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author msanthrope Apr 2014 #64

Also untrue. I already told you the truth. Happy Truth Day. merrily Apr 2014 #65

incredible statement, if coming from a lawyer grasswire Apr 2014 #90

The statement is actually true though Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2014 #95

but the poster's statement is not about someone "looking fat in a dress." grasswire Apr 2014 #118

which my latter part of the post agreed with Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2014 #124

Trivial, weak example nikto May 2014 #137

So, Lies will set you free? nikto May 2014 #136

Is this your favorite song? nikto May 2014 #138

+1 nt laurent Apr 2014 #89

There's a limit to how many powerful people you can piss off Flying Squirrel Apr 2014 #22

It seems he's known that from the start. merrily Apr 2014 #32

No other mainstream source reporting this OKNancy Apr 2014 #23

libertarians strike me as very odd. stonecutter357 Apr 2014 #26

How is this possible? hardcover Apr 2014 #38

I think that is just some anti-Snowden take on the matter. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #42

If it is about the Saudis' want to keep out of their country any protest for democracy & hiring Sunlei Apr 2014 #43

His "team?" you mean like a team of terrorists? Vietnameravet Apr 2014 #45

are you people real? reddread Apr 2014 #50

Rec aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2014 #74

+1 no message laurent Apr 2014 #79

word up frylock Apr 2014 #80

How about the agents we have whose lives may be in danger? How about Vietnameravet May 2014 #177

i take it your a big fan of the sauds? frylock Apr 2014 #81

Or even the Assad family in Syria aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2014 #84

HE'S A GREAT HERO!!!!!! DeSwiss Apr 2014 #130

Good, bring it. K&R Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #52

I wonder what his haters would say if he talked about a missile hitting TWA Flight 800 Reter Apr 2014 #57

Go, Eddie!!! snot Apr 2014 #59

Yes!!! Helen Borg Apr 2014 #86

Good post. No text. hsueh-li Apr 2014 #123

I know what the secret is! Sunlei Apr 2014 #61

That is some insane "death wish" driving.... MADem Apr 2014 #71

a common pass time of the children of the Lords or 'boys will be boys'! Sunlei Apr 2014 #75

Heaven help anyone who brakes and is hit by one of those assclowns...it'll be his fault if anyone MADem Apr 2014 #82

The other drivers just keep driving. hsueh-li Apr 2014 #125

They put their faith in divine providence. MADem Apr 2014 #131

Snowden has an Arabic translation team? Who knew. karynnj Apr 2014 #73

who knows how many RW people have access to those files & will be sure to use them for politicals? Sunlei Apr 2014 #78

There is something very "off" about this entire tale. I'm not sure it's even for real. MADem Apr 2014 #83

Probably not, but he has a following here. JackRiddler Apr 2014 #103

it's fun to watch people's all-consuming hatred for snowden.. frylock Apr 2014 #87

They must have a secret desire... nikto May 2014 #142

Good Call... Jesus Malverde May 2014 #146

FUCK COMRADE SNOWDEN! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #88

"Arabian Business" grasswire Apr 2014 #93

I could not find much about it. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #114

perhaps it's a CIA front grasswire Apr 2014 #116

Who knows, likely someones propaganda..but I am trying to find out more about Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #119

always good to have another "digger" around here grasswire Apr 2014 #121

Absolutely. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #122

notice the name of the author? grasswire Apr 2014 #94

Also, the sources? JackRiddler Apr 2014 #101

The hate in this thread is hilarious. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2014 #100

You get used to it, though. JackRiddler Apr 2014 #104

Reading through this thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #102

Right. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2014 #105

Of course you can point to a modern era war ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #113

I can point to a major war that started based on a false premise. ForgoTheConsequence May 2014 #158

+1 bravenak May 2014 #152

No need to leak them all... KansDem Apr 2014 #127

I think everything Snowden leaked prior was to establish credibility on that yurbud May 2014 #148

You have a point... KansDem May 2014 #153

just like OJ was looking for the real killer yurbud May 2014 #171

You shall know the truth...... DeSwiss Apr 2014 #128

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Apr 2014 #132

Just as anonymous was convenient to blame for leaked info during the Jesus Malverde May 2014 #144

I'm guessing Eddie would never.... Adrahil May 2014 #145

I sincerely hope he connects the dots on Bandar bin Bush & 9/11 as Congressional Inquiry likely did yurbud May 2014 #147

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he is our foreign policy stripped of propaganda and patriotic bullshit--a thug hitman making sure yurbud May 2014 #172

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Bathroom etiquette... Historic NY May 2014 #176