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32. I'm sorry to reply again, but this gets me. "Violent, forcible rape" is extremely redundant, and...

Thu May 1, 2014, 10:15 AM

May 2014

.... if you don't see why, I agree with others about wondering why this post wasn't hidden, at the very least. It was a 3-4 vote apparently.

Rape *is* a violent crime. It doesn't require fists, death threats, guns, knives, or anything else other than the sexual assault itself. This child, this 14-year-old girl who you are calling "sexually mature", completed suicide before her rapist was convicted, and if you think it wasn't at least somewhat related I've got a bridge to sell you.

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Montana teacher's 1-month rape sentence overturned [View all] The Straight Story Apr 2014 OP

Whew. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #1

Agree. This is a judge who should be sent out to pasture...... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #2

And your takeaway from that is... The Straight Story Apr 2014 #4

And ignoring that guns are the weapon of choice in the vast majority of these cases Gormy Cuss Apr 2014 #5

Huh? Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #6

"Had he killed him any other way (bow and arrow, booby trap, etc)..." greiner3 Apr 2014 #13

Not sure what that last paragraph meant, but for the rest The Straight Story Apr 2014 #15

Yes, please ignore the death tube spewing lead, it has nothing to do with this. Exultant Democracy May 2014 #43

This seems a distraction from this thread. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #7

+ 1 russspeakeasy Apr 2014 #9

thank you passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #11

Someone needs to check into that judge's background. n/t proReality Apr 2014 #3

GOOD! MynameisBlarney Apr 2014 #8

4 years? For RAPE?? DiverDave Apr 2014 #10

I think there is a HUGE difference between violent, forcible rape Chemisse Apr 2014 #16

You are saying it's the GIRLS FAULT? DiverDave Apr 2014 #17

Did I SAY it was the girl's fault? Chemisse May 2014 #35

FYI Delmette May 2014 #52

are you serious? for statutory RAPE? dionysus Apr 2014 #18

Yes. Chemisse May 2014 #36

So taking advantage of a young girl is not a violent crime in your mind? moriah Apr 2014 #19

Umm, no. Chemisse May 2014 #37

So battery with a penis isn't enough for you, they've gotta use their fists as well. Got it. Edit.. moriah May 2014 #46

My dear that is rape nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #20

Wow. City Lights Apr 2014 #21

there is a reason for statuatory laws. magical thyme Apr 2014 #22

I agree that it is wrong and very damaging to a 14 year old Chemisse May 2014 #38

a physical and psychological violation is a physical and psychological violation magical thyme May 2014 #44

In this case, it was severe enough to make her commit suicide. moriah May 2014 #47

did you, perchance hfojvt Apr 2014 #23

I guess I think of 'forced' as being a physical action Chemisse May 2014 #39

Er, what? LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #24

Giving someone 4 years in jail is not akin to saying it's 'ok' Chemisse May 2014 #40

Advocating giving him the bare minimum because her boobs had developed LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #49

For example, using the irrelevant phrase "sexually mature" to imply a difference without a distincti LanternWaste May 2014 #54

A person in authority over classrooms full of kids....yeah... The Straight Story Apr 2014 #25

'Sorry little girl, you should not have teased him into raping you' Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #26

Considering the girl is dead now, it's even sadder. moriah May 2014 #30

This whole "sexually mature" bullshit is nothing but excusing the rapist Ohio Joe May 2014 #31

Why would you say that my opinion on the length of a prison sentence Chemisse May 2014 #41

It's apparently more "okay" to you than "violent, forcible rape" moriah May 2014 #48

"sexually mature" Ohio Joe May 2014 #50

dear goddess, please tell us you forgot the sarcasm icon. niyad Apr 2014 #27

That would make you a rape apologist. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #28

+1 n/t JTFrog May 2014 #34

Oh sure. My opinion that 4 years is a good sentence is JUST like saying rape is perfectly dandy. Chemisse May 2014 #42

You were splitting hairs between kinds of rape, LeftyMom May 2014 #45

He was her teacher. She was raped. knitter4democracy May 2014 #29

I'm sorry to reply again, but this gets me. "Violent, forcible rape" is extremely redundant, and... moriah May 2014 #32

Sick. JTFrog May 2014 #33

Didn't the girl kill herself? So, somehow, I don't think it is WhiteTara May 2014 #51

Slate has an interesting take on this passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #12

I may be the wrong person to take this position on this board, being a woman. GOPee May 2014 #53

I understand your concern passiveporcupine May 2014 #55

Judges that hand out weak sentences have some control over the situation as well. athenasatanjesus Apr 2014 #14

It is good to hear that the Montana Supreme Court overturned the original sentence davidpdx May 2014 #56