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45. The success or failure of the TPP

Fri May 2, 2014, 09:11 AM

May 2014

will depend upon it's support or opposition in congress. And upon the ratification by member nations. The electorate has to keep pressure on congress to deny fast track approval.

Likewise with Keystone. It's the landowners who have sold the rights to their land that enable it. It is the hold outs stopping it. Presidents don't rule by decree. They are politicians with great but limited power. Moving agendas on a global stage takes political expertise.

If your electorate is divided on a given agenda, then the moneyed interests will hold sway. And you can't move an agenda if you aren't there. This is why I think Barack Obama made Rahm Emanuel his COS. To make way for Nancy Pelosi.

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Hillary Clinton Would Beat Jeb Bush In Florida (+8 Quinnipiac) [View all] big_dog May 2014 OP

I cannot believe another Bush is actually being considered 951-Riverside May 2014 #1

Bush fatigue in his own state! big_dog May 2014 #3

Welcome to the new Feudal system. /nt Ash_F May 2014 #11

Someone probably said the same thing when JohnQuincy Adams was elected... brooklynite May 2014 #88

He's all they have left... elzenmahn May 2014 #85

I think any credible Dem wins in '16. The only question is how big of win do we want? wyldwolf May 2014 #2

this could be a historical mammoth landslide type victory like FDR in 1932 big_dog May 2014 #4

It might be..but, if voters think they are getting FDR in "Hillary Presidency"....well KoKo May 2014 #12

You intend to flog that taken out of context video for the next two years? Beacool May 2014 #13

She said it and it it get's to be too much...Google will remove it. I suspect KoKo May 2014 #14

I already had this exchange with you before. Beacool May 2014 #17

Well we are done with it then. n/t KoKo May 2014 #18

The Clintons are not a dynasty. LuvLoogie May 2014 #29

Which Udall should resign...Mark or Tom? brooklynite May 2014 #89

K&R Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #5

Great Choice here, imthevicar May 2014 #6

Silly post - ignorant sentiment. wyldwolf May 2014 #7

Is it really? Both Support the CFR and that's enough for me. imthevicar May 2014 #8

Yes it is. Quite silly. And so is being a one issue voter wyldwolf May 2014 #9

Well Hillary RoccoR5955 May 2014 #19

well Hillary wyldwolf May 2014 #23

Keystone XL is a deal breaker for me! RoccoR5955 May 2014 #24

OMG! Hillary was a "Goldwater Girl"... DonViejo May 2014 #28

Was Warren in favor of Clinton's impeachment? Interesting questions. wyldwolf May 2014 #39

Good question and I'm sure you'll ask my U.S. Senator about that... DonViejo May 2014 #51

you sound like you're having a hissy fit now wyldwolf May 2014 #38

Seems that you know Hillary's platform before she does. Auntie Bush May 2014 #33

I am obxhead May 2014 #110

Have faith! Auntie Bush May 2014 #113

Bullshit FiveGoodMen May 2014 #59

BRILLIANT retort wyldwolf May 2014 #60

If you can't already tell that Hillary is corporate, Third-Way, just like Obama FiveGoodMen May 2014 #66

so, in other words, you can't make a convincing case ... wyldwolf May 2014 #68

There is little difference. RoccoR5955 May 2014 #83

I assume you'll avoid the challenge, too wyldwolf May 2014 #93

Sure you will RoccoR5955 May 2014 #98

So that's your list? wyldwolf May 2014 #99

I don't believe in lists! n/t RoccoR5955 May 2014 #101

Ah, the 'progressive' version of truthiness wyldwolf May 2014 #102

I find the term RoccoR5955 May 2014 #103

LOL. OK, the liberal version of truthiness. wyldwolf May 2014 #104

+1. nt laurent May 2014 #118

I agree with that totally. RoccoR5955 May 2014 #82

One offers fast-lane turnover of what's left of our democracy to the 1% Auggie May 2014 #10

Republicans are between a rock and a hard place: Jeb won't turn out their base but yurbud May 2014 #15

That is a good description davidpdx May 2014 #116

That's strong BeyondGeography May 2014 #16

Good news about Florida! Cha May 2014 #20

Good news, but in a sad way. sofa king May 2014 #53

I hear ya, sofa king :( Cha May 2014 #81

And I still wouldn't vote for HRC (deep red TX) blkmusclmachine May 2014 #21

The election is too far off, and anyone who thinks the dem candidate will win easily.. olddad56 May 2014 #22

Presidential polls over 2 years out Le Taz Hot May 2014 #25

yep, just another stupid poll pushing the "inevitability" meme. Follow the money. antigop May 2014 #26

I don't know who is paying for the polls Le Taz Hot May 2014 #27

Yes thousands and thousands of Hillary supporters LuvLoogie May 2014 #30

No, just the 20 or so Le Taz Hot May 2014 #31

I was wondering when I would see the "HDS" thingy. djean111 May 2014 #32

It's a Hillary vs Jeb op showing strong support for HRC in FL. LuvLoogie May 2014 #36

If I had to choose between Hillary and Jeb (I live in Florida) I would pick Hillary. djean111 May 2014 #43

The success or failure of the TPP LuvLoogie May 2014 #45

So Hillary helped write it and has publicly supported it - but is not responsible for it. djean111 May 2014 #46

Whatever Hillary Clinton's mindset is, LuvLoogie May 2014 #86

Are you saying that by asking for Fast Track, Obama is playing eleventy-dimensional chess, and that djean111 May 2014 #92

I don't know. LuvLoogie May 2014 #94

How do you get big donor money and rally your base at the same time? djean111 May 2014 #95

Do you think Congress intends to abdicate its authority? LuvLoogie May 2014 #96

It comes right after that "'inevitability' meme" thingy. wyldwolf May 2014 #40

X Derangement Syndrome was made up by Charles Krauthammer to deflect any criticism of GWB.. frylock May 2014 #55

Bwah! That is priceless! djean111 May 2014 #57

you mean like YOU did here? wyldwolf May 2014 #70

Bwah! That is priceless! wyldwolf May 2014 #71

spend much time digging those up? frylock May 2014 #72

Actually, no. 'frylock derangement' in that google box above. 90 seconds max. wyldwolf May 2014 #73

and you'll note the OPs that i posted to are experts in the field of evaluating people for ODS.. frylock May 2014 #74

I'll note that you used the term before ridiculing someone else for it. wyldwolf May 2014 #75

i've been ridiculing people over that term since it first appeared here over 5 years ago.. frylock May 2014 #76

yet you used it yourself - twice that I saw wyldwolf May 2014 #77

i used it to be ironic ffs.. frylock May 2014 #78

ok. wyldwolf May 2014 #79

You're more than welcome to post polls in which Warren or Sanders are trouncing Hillary. Nye Bevan May 2014 #47

They don't, that's their frustration. Beacool May 2014 #61

Let's see, they are from Gallup, Quinnipiac, Rasmussen, ABC, CBS, WP, NYT, etc. Beacool May 2014 #62

An Jeb isn't one of the 1%? Auntie Bush May 2014 #34

I don't care about Jeb. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #35

Go back and read the OP poll again. Auntie Bush May 2014 #41

The poll is 2 years out Le Taz Hot May 2014 #49

Where do you see that poll was 2 years ago? Auntie Bush May 2014 #54

2016 - 2014 = 2 years out frylock May 2014 #56

but math is hard! lol nt antigop May 2014 #67

Are you trying to be funny or do you really have no clue about the level of her support? Beacool May 2014 #63

Funny, I was thinking the same thing Le Taz Hot May 2014 #65

The big question is, what happens if Hillary decides not to run? Arkana May 2014 #37

That's such a scary question I can't ever think about. nt Auntie Bush May 2014 #42

There may be a scramble, but we won't have a circus Proud Public Servant May 2014 #52

I agree with you on the fact that it won't be a circus and there is a chance she won't run davidpdx May 2014 #114

Hillary Clinton will win big time. greatlaurel May 2014 #44

LOL! Le Taz Hot May 2014 #48

You sound concern . stonecutter357 May 2014 #87

The state that nod & winkster Jeb allowed "W" to steal in 2000 Zambero May 2014 #50

I do not think anything Jeb did would make a Republican vote for a Democrat. djean111 May 2014 #58

Correct. But independents? Zambero May 2014 #91

heh, heh. you know you hit the nail on the head when... antigop May 2014 #64

Jeb is the candidate of the GOP donor class but has a great deal of baggage Gothmog May 2014 #69

Hillary won't be able to hit him on the Iraq war Charlos May 2014 #80

So? That (will have) happened 4 administrations ago. wyldwolf May 2014 #100

No actually it will have been the administration before Obamaq davidpdx May 2014 #115

Well Hillary hasn't said yes ...yet. But sources say J.Bush is a definite. No more Bushes! YOHABLO May 2014 #84

Interesting comment in the article: "voters see Crist's party switch in a positive light" DCBob May 2014 #90

Ben Gazzzzzzzzi !!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t Strelnikov_ May 2014 #97

K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2014 #105

Even the teabaggers don't want him n/t Endgames May 2014 #106

Tina Brown says she shouldn't run tooeyeten May 2014 #107

And Hillary should listen to Tina Brown, why? Beacool May 2014 #109

Not at all tooeyeten May 2014 #111

According to polls, most Americans do not want another Clinton Bush Presidential rivalry. merrily May 2014 #108

When it is six months out AnalystInParadise May 2014 #112

I knew it libodem May 2014 #117