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19. No, he said he wouldn't unless Russians were killed.

Fri May 2, 2014, 04:53 PM

May 2014

This escalation is precisely what he needs. The problem is that eastern Ukraine is maybe 12% Russian, so it can go badly if he does so. Now ethnic Ukrainians have blood on their hands. They will feel threatened, and worry they will be targeted.

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Ukraine Violence Spreads: At Least One Killed in Odessa Riots [View all] Comrade Grumpy May 2014 OP

And here's RT's version: Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #1

Thank you for providing both sides version of this situation, Comrade G. Purveyor May 2014 #5

Probably about 45-50 dead in total Bosonic May 2014 #2

Damn it. NuclearDem May 2014 #3

Looks like Obama, Kerry, McCain and nyabingi May 2014 #4

What on earth are you talking about? NuclearDem May 2014 #6

I stated a while back nyabingi May 2014 #16

You don't think Putin order Ukrainian military into UKRAINE? Jesus freaking Christ. nt EmilyAnne May 2014 #18

Umm, Putin is the president of the Russian Federation nyabingi May 2014 #51

Oh, is he? Gee, I had no idea. EmilyAnne May 2014 #55

So Russia has had absolutely no role in escalating tensions in the east? NuclearDem May 2014 #20

If the US hadn't installed anti-Russian, pro-Western nyabingi May 2014 #49

No it likely wouldn't have, at least as it did. That's called blowback. NuclearDem May 2014 #52

Up until now, Russia has definitely wanted to nyabingi May 2014 #61

there was not a coup Duckhunter935 May 2014 #54

Well if that wasn't the NYT/FOX News version of events lol! nyabingi May 2014 #57

show me were his life was being threatened? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #59

Your source to me, ABC News, is about as nyabingi May 2014 #62

So, you've been busy today leftynyc May 2014 #80

OK go back and find everything I've posted nyabingi May 2014 #81

True, Sir: Makes A Window-Pane Look Opaque By Compare.... The Magistrate May 2014 #83

Amen to that, Magistrate leftynyc May 2014 #84

This is a person who believes that Ukraine is controlled by Right Sector. EmilyAnne May 2014 #22

This is really getting old. NuclearDem May 2014 #24

Right Sector are their homegrown militia, their shock troops to nyabingi May 2014 #50

+1 nt laurent May 2014 #60

Pretty sure this is what Putin wants. joshcryer May 2014 #9

If Putin wanted to send those 40,000 troops nyabingi May 2014 #14

No, he said he wouldn't unless Russians were killed. joshcryer May 2014 #19

The Kiev government was supposed to nyabingi May 2014 #25

The problem is dipsydoodle May 2014 #27

You realize the 8 pro-Ukraine people were shot? joshcryer May 2014 #32

That was in context with the Geneva agreement. dipsydoodle May 2014 #34

Sure, but both sides can use home made stuff. joshcryer May 2014 #41

This: NuclearDem May 2014 #23

I didn't see Russians nyabingi May 2014 #26

consider yourself now slightly more edumacated Bosonic May 2014 #28

They're a little busy launching a pogrom against their LGBT community. NuclearDem May 2014 #29

What on earth? Fascists are a HUGE presence in Russia. EmilyAnne May 2014 #30

There are neo-Nazis all over the world EmilyAnne, nyabingi May 2014 #46

Well, bless your heart. You said the exact thing. EmilyAnne May 2014 #53

I never said there weren't neo-Nazis in Russia nyabingi May 2014 #56

The real issue is that Russia's fascists back Putin as do fascists throughout Europe. pampango May 2014 #65

The far-right parties of the EU oppose the EU just as Putin does, nyabingi May 2014 #68

No, the far right EU parties are supporting Putin muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #69

I checked out the EU Observer nyabingi May 2014 #70

Yes, far-right support for Putin is more sinister and worthy of condemnation muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #71

It Does Not Surprise Me Much, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #72

You support American imperial aggression nyabingi May 2014 #74

It was Russia that took control of Crimea with its troops, not the USA muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #75

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #76

Invading a country and then organising a referendum in the section you've taken muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #78

It's disgusting to see "Dems are as bad as Republicans" and "Russians were defending themselves" muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #79

dumb statement to post. olddad56 May 2014 #13

What's dumb about it? nyabingi May 2014 #17

Yes, it shows how the poster has an agenda but no fucking knowledge. Cha May 2014 #43

You seem rather belligerent Cha nyabingi May 2014 #47

In the absence of a compelling narrative. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #82

Sad but true nyabingi May 2014 #85

accusing President Obama of wanting bloodshed is disgusting nt arely staircase May 2014 #36

Obama expanded the Bush era drone program nyabingi May 2014 #48

again, disgusting arely staircase May 2014 #58

Awful hard to take the "bloodthirsty" talk seriously NuclearDem May 2014 #64

It's apparent that the new leaders in Kiev nyabingi May 2014 #67

You have no idea wtf you're talking about.. keep digging. Cha May 2014 #42

Ukraine Clashes: Dozens Reported Dead After Odessa Building Fire Purveyor May 2014 #7

Fuck. It's hard to see how it ends in anything but huge violence after that muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #8

By design, I predicted this months ago. joshcryer May 2014 #11

dupe joshcryer May 2014 #12

Blame outsiders, that's how. Igel May 2014 #63

This is a major escalation. I think the current version of Ukraine is about to become history. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #10

There aren't enough ethnic Russian for a breakaway. joshcryer May 2014 #15

With massive violence, and Russian troops in the east and south muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #21

I don't see it, too many ethnic Ukrainians. joshcryer May 2014 #31

Not sure where 88% comes from muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #33

Crimea is no longer part of Ukraine. joshcryer May 2014 #39

I thought we were talking about the provinces Russian was likely to take over muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #44

Ahh, that's only 3% off my figure. joshcryer May 2014 #45

Perhaps ethnicity isn't all there is to it. King_Rat May 2014 #66

+1,000,000 cosmicone May 2014 #37

dozens dead after Odessa building fire Jesus Malverde May 2014 #35

This is what Putin wants. I'm sure he's smiling with delight. TwilightGardener May 2014 #40

well that's it arely staircase May 2014 #38

SBU Claims to Have Seized Radioactive Materials Iterate May 2014 #73