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In reply to the discussion: Ukraine: US condemns Odessa violence as dozens die [View all]Iterate
(3,021 posts)48. “Orthodox Fascism in Russia”
A video titled Orthodox Fascism in Russia posted last week by an anonymous pro-Ukrainian blogger among others has been widely circulated on Russian and Ukrainian social media and news sites. With thumping rock music and scary footage of saluting marchers, the video takes its name from a comment made by an activist at an ultranationalist rally, Orthodox fascism will save Russia. The video contains alarming scenes seeming to indicate support for ultranationalist extremists by at least some Russian Orthodox clergy.
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What we dont get from the sinister video is any sense of the size of the movements, the degree to which the broader public supports them, and the sources of their funding. Last year, the Russian March, staged 4 November for Unity Day, a holiday introduced by Putin to commemorate the expulsion of Poles from Moscow in 1612, attracted about 8,000 people more than the few thousand who showed up every year since 2005 (see The Interpreters translation of Russian media coverage.) Thats not so many a march to protest the forcible annexation of the Crimea drew some 50,000 with only a few thousand in a counter-rally organized by Russian Orthodox activists; a rally against suppression of media freedom drew 10,000.
What we also cant tell is how much these groups and their events enjoy official support they are given parade or rally permits, and some of them are related to national movements sponsored by the Kremlin, but the extent to which they are avidly sustained as distinct from tolerated or manipulated for political purposes is not clear. At the end of Orthodox Fascism, one speaker says that when he confronted an extreme Russian Orthodox priest about a violent attack, he was told that he could do nothing because the group had the backing of Vladimir Putin.
The provenance of the film circulating now appears to be in part a film titled Russian March 2012: Orthodoxy, Fascism, Paganism, produced and uploaded in 2012 by Portal-Credo.ru, a Russian news and research site run by advocates of religious freedom who are critical of the increasing interference of the Russian Orthodox Church in civil society. The older video contains some of the same scenes and slogans as the video currently circulated juxtaposed with scenes from Hitlers orations. The videos show similar concerns but appear to have different producers, and the newer video is more stark, even without the Hitler montage.
http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-this-week-new-us-sanctions-hit-closer-to-putin/
What's often not stated is that some elements self-defined left have kept the anachronistic view that Putinist Russia has anything "left" remaining in it. Opposition to the EU seems to be sufficient for their support, which is counter-intuitive given that the EU and a few US states are the primary remaining strongholds of progressive government, anywhere.
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Yeah, you butt in on a post of mine to friend that was about putin.. so Fuck Putin.
Cha
May 2014
#24
Well when you barricade yourself in a building, throwing Molotov's may be a bad idea.
EX500rider
May 2014
#70
"It also called on the Ukrainian authorities "to bring all those responsible to justice." Uh,
jtuck004
May 2014
#2
The 5 Billion is since 1991 and much of that has gone to agricultural and health programs. We even
okaawhatever
May 2014
#3
Why are we involved in this at all? We seem to be everywhere, and everywhere we are
sabrina 1
May 2014
#114
Already read it. Means nothing, just one more two-bit opinion. We have been funneling money to lots
jtuck004
May 2014
#73
With us or against us. Always been that way, always will be. Only the naive and simplistic think
jtuck004
May 2014
#87
"My research is just fine, don't need to rely on paid for opinions of hacks to get an understanding"
EX500rider
May 2014
#132
perhaps you don't want the USA to be an ally & member of the (fantastic!)EU but I do AND
Sunlei
May 2014
#52
You don't know a single thing about what I want. But what I don't want are warmongering assholes
jtuck004
May 2014
#72
Yes they made moltovs then rushed the building and burned it while people were in it
newthinking
May 2014
#12
You identify with pretty woman who made weapons that burned 38 people alive?
newthinking
May 2014
#16
Sometimes fascists don't actually look scary. Sometimes it looks like a cultural celebration.
Jesus Malverde
May 2014
#32
The Real 'Default Assumption', Sir, Is That People Shot Are Shot By Their Opponents
The Magistrate
May 2014
#143
No One Denies Some In The Crowds Were Armed, Sir, And Shot At Police by The End
The Magistrate
May 2014
#148
they don't prefer russia. They feel close to Russia but they would be fine with federalism
newthinking
May 2014
#11
That was part of my point about the two who were making moltovs, it's dangerous no matter who's
davidpdx
May 2014
#25
I certainly don't support it from EITHER side. The Pro-Russian side was lobbing Petrobombs too. NT
Adrahil
May 2014
#128
"Over thru the government" You mean the President hi tailed it out of the country before..
EX500rider
May 2014
#86
Your whole "nations don't matter" schtick fails immediately in this situation.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#102