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pampango

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65. The real issue is that Russia's fascists back Putin as do fascists throughout Europe.
Sat May 3, 2014, 11:53 AM
May 2014
A prominent Russian politician has proposed dividing Ukraine along the lines of an infamous Nazi-Soviet pact and suggested that regions in Western Ukraine hold referendums on breaking away from Kiev.

In a letter sent to the governments of Poland, Romania and Hungary, Vladimir Zhirinovsky also suggested those countries hold referendums on incorporating the regions into their territory.

Zhirinovsky, whose nationalist Liberal Democratic party largely backs President Vladimir Putin in the Russian parliament, sent the letter as Russia annexed the Crimea region of southern Ukraine last week.

He is deputy speaker at the Duma and his party holds a minority in the parliament. But his ideas and language resonate with a large part of the Russian population and the Kremlin's increasingly pro-nationalist rhetoric.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/24/ukraine-crisis-partition-letter-idUSL5N0ML1LO20140324

Liberal Democratic Party of Russia

Despite the party's name, it is frequently described as "neither liberal nor democratic." While the party describes itself as centrist and reformist, it is usually regarded as far-right and is identified with Russian ultranationalism, fiscally left national-populism and authoritarian conservatism. Its ideology is based primarily on Zhirinovsky's ideas of "imperial reconquest".

Platform

The Liberal Democratic Party of Russia aims for "a revival of Russia as a great power." It has opposed both communism and the "wild" capitalism that resulted from Russia's reforms. It favours a mixed economy with private ownership but with a strong management role reserved for the state. In foreign policy, the party places a strong emphasis on "civilizations." It has supported the restoration of Russia with its "natural borders" (which the party believes include Belarus, Ukraine and other former Soviet republics).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_of_Russia

Far-right parties are set to do well in next month’s elections to the European Parliament, a fact that has thrown a spotlight on their links with the Kremlin. A recent study by the Budapest-based Political Capital Institute documents the support that far-right parties in the EU have given to Russian President Vladimir Putin, particularly throughout the Ukraine crisis. These parties repeated the Kremlin’s line that it is the EU and the West, rather than Russia, which are provoking tension and fueling violence in the Eastern European country.

http://euobserver.com/eu-elections/123887
And here's RT's version: Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #1
Thank you for providing both sides version of this situation, Comrade G. Purveyor May 2014 #5
Probably about 45-50 dead in total Bosonic May 2014 #2
Damn it. NuclearDem May 2014 #3
Looks like Obama, Kerry, McCain and nyabingi May 2014 #4
What on earth are you talking about? NuclearDem May 2014 #6
I stated a while back nyabingi May 2014 #16
You don't think Putin order Ukrainian military into UKRAINE? Jesus freaking Christ. nt EmilyAnne May 2014 #18
Umm, Putin is the president of the Russian Federation nyabingi May 2014 #51
Oh, is he? Gee, I had no idea. EmilyAnne May 2014 #55
So Russia has had absolutely no role in escalating tensions in the east? NuclearDem May 2014 #20
If the US hadn't installed anti-Russian, pro-Western nyabingi May 2014 #49
No it likely wouldn't have, at least as it did. That's called blowback. NuclearDem May 2014 #52
Up until now, Russia has definitely wanted to nyabingi May 2014 #61
there was not a coup Duckhunter935 May 2014 #54
Well if that wasn't the NYT/FOX News version of events lol! nyabingi May 2014 #57
show me were his life was being threatened? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #59
Your source to me, ABC News, is about as nyabingi May 2014 #62
So, you've been busy today leftynyc May 2014 #80
OK go back and find everything I've posted nyabingi May 2014 #81
True, Sir: Makes A Window-Pane Look Opaque By Compare.... The Magistrate May 2014 #83
Amen to that, Magistrate leftynyc May 2014 #84
This is a person who believes that Ukraine is controlled by Right Sector. EmilyAnne May 2014 #22
This is really getting old. NuclearDem May 2014 #24
Right Sector are their homegrown militia, their shock troops to nyabingi May 2014 #50
+1 nt laurent May 2014 #60
Pretty sure this is what Putin wants. joshcryer May 2014 #9
If Putin wanted to send those 40,000 troops nyabingi May 2014 #14
No, he said he wouldn't unless Russians were killed. joshcryer May 2014 #19
The Kiev government was supposed to nyabingi May 2014 #25
The problem is dipsydoodle May 2014 #27
You realize the 8 pro-Ukraine people were shot? joshcryer May 2014 #32
That was in context with the Geneva agreement. dipsydoodle May 2014 #34
Sure, but both sides can use home made stuff. joshcryer May 2014 #41
This: NuclearDem May 2014 #23
I didn't see Russians nyabingi May 2014 #26
consider yourself now slightly more edumacated Bosonic May 2014 #28
They're a little busy launching a pogrom against their LGBT community. NuclearDem May 2014 #29
What on earth? Fascists are a HUGE presence in Russia. EmilyAnne May 2014 #30
There are neo-Nazis all over the world EmilyAnne, nyabingi May 2014 #46
Well, bless your heart. You said the exact thing. EmilyAnne May 2014 #53
I never said there weren't neo-Nazis in Russia nyabingi May 2014 #56
The real issue is that Russia's fascists back Putin as do fascists throughout Europe. pampango May 2014 #65
The far-right parties of the EU oppose the EU just as Putin does, nyabingi May 2014 #68
No, the far right EU parties are supporting Putin muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #69
I checked out the EU Observer nyabingi May 2014 #70
Yes, far-right support for Putin is more sinister and worthy of condemnation muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #71
It Does Not Surprise Me Much, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #72
You support American imperial aggression nyabingi May 2014 #74
It was Russia that took control of Crimea with its troops, not the USA muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #75
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #76
Invading a country and then organising a referendum in the section you've taken muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #77
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #78
It's disgusting to see "Dems are as bad as Republicans" and "Russians were defending themselves" muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #79
dumb statement to post. olddad56 May 2014 #13
What's dumb about it? nyabingi May 2014 #17
Yes, it shows how the poster has an agenda but no fucking knowledge. Cha May 2014 #43
You seem rather belligerent Cha nyabingi May 2014 #47
In the absence of a compelling narrative. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #82
Sad but true nyabingi May 2014 #85
accusing President Obama of wanting bloodshed is disgusting nt arely staircase May 2014 #36
Obama expanded the Bush era drone program nyabingi May 2014 #48
again, disgusting arely staircase May 2014 #58
Awful hard to take the "bloodthirsty" talk seriously NuclearDem May 2014 #64
It's apparent that the new leaders in Kiev nyabingi May 2014 #67
You have no idea wtf you're talking about.. keep digging. Cha May 2014 #42
Ukraine Clashes: Dozens Reported Dead After Odessa Building Fire Purveyor May 2014 #7
Fuck. It's hard to see how it ends in anything but huge violence after that muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #8
By design, I predicted this months ago. joshcryer May 2014 #11
dupe joshcryer May 2014 #12
Blame outsiders, that's how. Igel May 2014 #63
This is a major escalation. I think the current version of Ukraine is about to become history. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #10
There aren't enough ethnic Russian for a breakaway. joshcryer May 2014 #15
With massive violence, and Russian troops in the east and south muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #21
I don't see it, too many ethnic Ukrainians. joshcryer May 2014 #31
Not sure where 88% comes from muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #33
Crimea is no longer part of Ukraine. joshcryer May 2014 #39
I thought we were talking about the provinces Russian was likely to take over muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #44
Ahh, that's only 3% off my figure. joshcryer May 2014 #45
Perhaps ethnicity isn't all there is to it. King_Rat May 2014 #66
+1,000,000 cosmicone May 2014 #37
dozens dead after Odessa building fire Jesus Malverde May 2014 #35
This is what Putin wants. I'm sure he's smiling with delight. TwilightGardener May 2014 #40
well that's it arely staircase May 2014 #38
SBU Claims to Have Seized Radioactive Materials Iterate May 2014 #73
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