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In reply to the discussion: Report: CIA and FBI Helping Ukranian Government Quell Rebellion In East [View all]JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)It is a criminal organization that easily matches Putin in terms of the crimes committed worldwide.
The role of the U.S. government would not be to provide "counter action" to Russian machinations. That would imply the U.S. government should be involved in every conflict and every issue everywhere in the world.
The U.S. government's only legitimate role is to enact the will of We the People. It is not for a group of geostrategists to decide our "interests" (inevitably: the interests of their class) on our behalf, without a democratic and public debate. When were we asked if we wanted a secret CIA-State Department action to help overthrow the government of Ukraine? When were we asked if we should be allied with Ukrainian ethno-nationalists who want to deprive ethnic Russians of their equal rights in the Ukrainian state?
In this case, of course, the U.S. government is not providing "counter action." It participated in instigating a coup d'etat against the democratic government of the Ukraine. It's the Russian side that has engaged in counter action.
Who is putting sanctions on the U.S. oligarchs? That is what Americans should be interested in, since it's not the Russian oligarchs who stole hundreds of billions of dollars from Americans and got away with it. The Russian oligarchs are very bad guys, but it's for Russians to overthrow them. We have an equivalent problem here with our own oligarchs. The U.S. government let Wall Street rape and pillage the planet (with millions of real victims - famines and many other horrors included) and then rewarded the Wall Street criminals. If the U.S. govt wants to talk about distant Russian oligarchs, it should first gain moral standing -- by rounding up the American oligarchs, instead of letting them run this country.
We have higher priorities than instigating and getting involved in a Ukrainian quagmire. That's realism.
The actual "Sunday School" is the one run by fundamentalists of aggressive foreign policy, who would squander our energies and wealth on yet another foreign involvement that messes up real interests of the American 99% and benefits only a tiny class in the U.S.