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33. I never said Boko Haram is not to blame...

Mon May 5, 2014, 01:15 PM

May 2014

...did you see me blame someone us? Of course they are to blame - that is not what is in question or even why I commented on it in the first place. If you're saying I said they're not to blame, or implying that they aren't, then you're either a bad reader or a damned liar (my guess would be the latter).

Political support for war is the concern of the political establishment. It is their responsibility to spin whatever atrocities occur on the battlefield out of the view of a public which may raise red flags. The US government did all it can in past wars to cover up massacres, to label all those killed, be they innocent women, men, and children, as "terrorists" or "militants". There are no moral, "rule of law" fighting forces in existence, Magistrate. The only rule in war is kill or be killed, and no one can claim any moral superiority when it comes to killing, whether it's Boko Haram, the Nigerian government or our own.

You are free to continue claiming I'm offering apologies for Boko Haram if you like. You've decided, probably from our back-and-forths over the Ukraine debate that you have me figured out, but I say again, you are way off course.

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The denial is pervasive al bupp May 2014 #16

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I didn't mean to imply that you were denying anything al bupp May 2014 #54

Okay, thanks for clarifying. whathehell May 2014 #74

Link to a petition to get some attention for these girls... riderinthestorm May 2014 #2

Since they are selling for $12 each it would be fairly simple to buy them back. However that would jwirr May 2014 #5

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Making excuses leftynyc May 2014 #19

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If you don't bother to think "why" then nyabingi May 2014 #39

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Post removed Post removed May 2014 #55

That Might Impose On People Who Cannot Read, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #56

YOU are defending leftynyc May 2014 #31

Disgusting maddezmom May 2014 #25

True On Both Counts, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2014 #28

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