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20. I know it is hard to believe for someone unfamiliar with the culture

Tue May 6, 2014, 03:07 AM

May 2014

But given their history and the fact they consider the Interim administration to be illegitimate and "fascist", it is not really out of the realm.

I am pretty sure they actually have had, in general, a higher participation rate than we do. Add the situation...

The situation, for ethnic Russians, stirs up feelings even heavier than say, like we had when going to war in Iraq. There was a point during that fervor that I am sure if we had a vote that on actions there we may have had quite high numbers and a similar situation where those who did not support it would boycott.

But this is a nuanced view and I know you likely already have made up your mind and will probably fall on deaf ears?

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Even Russian human rights body finds Crimean referendum falsified [View all] The Magistrate May 2014 OP

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"...while playing around with WW3." Absolutely. MADem May 2014 #16

ON the UP and UP 4Q2u2 May 2014 #51

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I hope the admins start doing some checking the sock drawer...! nt MADem May 2014 #67

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Not surprised you would like it either "Sir" newthinking May 2014 #10

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Only because those who did not want it boycotted newthinking May 2014 #15

So You Claim 83% Percent Turn-out Is A Truthful Figure? Really, O Exposer Of False Narratives.... The Magistrate May 2014 #18

I know it is hard to believe for someone unfamiliar with the culture newthinking May 2014 #20

So That Would Be a Yes, Sir: You Really Do Believe 83% Turn-Out And 96% In Favor Is Straight Up Fact The Magistrate May 2014 #22

79% (83% x 96%) is not out of the question **given the circumstances** (fear of fascism and their newthinking May 2014 #27

Again, Sir, That Is A Yes: You Really Believe Claims of 83% Turn-Out And 96% In Favor Are True The Magistrate May 2014 #29

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Yeah. The putins won't believe it though. Cha May 2014 #8

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Some, Sir, Would Question Whether You Understand Events At All... The Magistrate May 2014 #14

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Accurate Statements, Sir, Are Not 'Name-Calling' The Magistrate May 2014 #19

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You are being paranoid my friend. newthinking May 2014 #30

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No one is using my handle to my knowledge, sir. I hope ballyhoo May 2014 #43

That was MY post. I don't know what you ballyhoo May 2014 #45

He's certainly right on time! MADem May 2014 #28

Don't forget Putintaur! Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #38

That is hilarious--in all his bosomy glory, he is!!!! nt MADem May 2014 #68

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Jury Results For Hidden Post No. 48, Above The Magistrate May 2014 #52

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