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In reply to the discussion: Ukraine: US condemns Odessa violence as dozens die [View all]JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Maybe the protesters shouldn't have allied with extreme rightists and Nazis against the irrationally hated ethnic Russian Ukrainian citizens (even if there are fascists among the Russian side too, hardly a reason). And maybe they shouldn't have overthrown the elected government instead of waiting for the next election.
And maybe the coup government, in the decisive moment, should have called for national reconciliation. But lookeesee here, on their first day, they banned Russian as a language of the state, although this language is spoken by the majority of Ukrainian state citizens. Thus sending a very clear signal that their priorities were not peaceful, or political, but to exploit ethnic tensions for their own gain. So that a new mix of roughly the same oligarchs plus or minus could rule the roost.
The reaction and the over-reaction on the Russian side is not all justifiable, but it is predictable! It cannot be condemned as any worse than the series of initial provocations by the coup d'etat government -- a coalition of IMF-compatible neoliberals and extreme right-wingers backed by the United States government's most criminal agencies (the CIA and the FBI). The U.S., every inch the oligarchy that Russia is. Except world-spanning. So that where Russian oligarchs beat up and kill people on the street to take over regional resource corporations, it is today the American oligarchs on Wall Street who flat-out starve millions to make a few percent extra, which adds up to trillions. And they keep their hands clean, it's all paper transactions, so they're wonderful people. And enough of that trickles down that a larger middle class can be bought off and persuaded it's all good and it's all free.
If you had the ability to at least acknowledge that there are no good guys in this, and that the decisive descent into ethnic madness came not from the Russians, but from the coup d'etat government. I'm sure what everyone needs is another hundred years of both sides claiming horrible traumas were inflicted on them and blaming the imagined other to the Nth generation. And they will both be right! Just as the Ukrainian nationalists are right about the 1930s (whatever the exaggerations) and the Russian nationalists are right about the Ukrainians who collaborated with the Nazis.
Another fucking Yugoslavian hellscape. Dragging in all the young people who didn't even know they were supposed to hate the ethnic other, until the shooting started. Madness. Backed by your heroic State Department, and your kindly IMF. Thanks to selective blindness the only crimes that will be visible to you will be the Russian's, however.