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In reply to the discussion: Total Ban On GM Corn in France Follows Popular Opposition [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)109. Hasn't shown a negative impact on humans or rats? Not true, check it out.
Last edited Wed May 7, 2014, 11:33 AM - Edit history (1)
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POST 4:
...In addition, many studies implicate Bt-toxin as an allergen. In its natural state derived from soil bacteria, Bt-toxin has triggered immune responses in farm workers and allergic- and flu-like symptoms in hundreds of exposed citizens (21). It also evoked immune responses (22) (and intestinal tissue damage) (23) in mice. Similarly, an Italian government study showed that mice fed Bt-corn had dramatic immune responses (24). And thousands of Indian farm workers who harvest Bt cotton are also experiencing allergic- and flu-like symptoms (25).
Thus, Bt-toxin production within our intestines might simultaneously trigger immune responses, compromise our digestive tract, and expose the blood to undigested food (which may further trigger immune responses).
And now the bad news: a 2011 Canadian study conducted at Sherbrooke Hospital discovered that 93% of the pregnant women they tested had Bt-toxin from Monsantos corn in their blood. And so did 80% of their unborn fetuses (26).
The toxin is likely to 'wash out' of our blood fairly quickly. If that is the case, how can we explain why more than 9 out of 10 women had it circulating? It must be that the intake of Bt-toxin must be very frequent. But Canadians dont eat that many corn chips and tortillas. They do eat lots of corn derivatives like corn syrup, but these highly processed foods no longer have the Bt-toxin present.
The authors of the study speculate that the source of the Bt-toxin in the blood must have been the meat and dairy of animals fed Bt corn. This assumes that the Bt-toxin protein remains intact through the animals entire digestive process and then again through the humans digestive process after they eat the meat or dairy.
A more plausible explanation may be that Bt-toxin genes transfer from corn chips or tortillas into our gut bacteria. The active genes then produce the (substance) on a continuous basis inside the intestinal tract, which then gets into our blood. And for pregnant mothers, the toxin then travels through the placenta into their fetuses.
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21. Green M et al. Public health implications of the microbial pesticide Bacillus thuringiensis: An epidemiological study, Oregon, 1985-86, Amer J Public Health. 1990;80(7):848852. Noble MA, Riben PD, and Cook GJ. Microbiological and epidemiological surveillance program to monitor the health effects of Foray 48B BTK spray (Vancouver, BC: Ministry of Forests, Province of British Columbi, Sep. 30, 1992)
22. Vazquez et al. Intragastric and intraperitoneal administration of Cry1Ac protoxin from Bacillus thuringiensis induces systemic and mucosal antibody responses in mice. 18971912. Vazquez et al. Characterization of the mucosal and systemic immune response induced by Cry1Ac protein from Bacillus thuringiensis HD 73 in mice. Brazilian Journal of Medical and Biological Research. 2000;33:147155. Vazquez et al. Bacillus thuringiensis Cry1Ac protoxin is a potent systemic and mucosal adjuvant. Scandanavian Journal of Immunology. 1999;49:578584. See also Vazquez-Padron et al. 147 (2000b).
23. Fares NH, El-Sayed AK. Fine Structural Changes in the Ileum of Mice Fed on Endotoxin Treated Potatoes and Transgenic Potatoes. Natural Toxins. 1998;6:219233.
24. Finamore A et al. Intestinal and Peripheral Immune Response to MON810 Maize Ingestion in Weaning and Old Mice. J Agric Food Chem. 2008;56:11533-11539.
25. Gupta A et al. Impact of Bt Cotton on Farmers Health (in Barwani and Dhar District of Madhya Pradesh). Investigation Report, OctDec 2005. Also, "Bt cotton causing allergic reaction in MP; cattle dead," Bhopal, Nov. 23, 2005.
26. Aris A, Leblanc S. Maternal and fetal exposure to pesticides associated to genetically modified foods in Eastern Townships of Quebec, Canada. Reprod Toxicol. 2011 May;31(4):528-33. Epub 2011 Feb 18.
POST 4:
...In addition, many studies implicate Bt-toxin as an allergen. In its natural state derived from soil bacteria, Bt-toxin has triggered immune responses in farm workers and allergic- and flu-like symptoms in hundreds of exposed citizens (21). It also evoked immune responses (22) (and intestinal tissue damage) (23) in mice. Similarly, an Italian government study showed that mice fed Bt-corn had dramatic immune responses (24). And thousands of Indian farm workers who harvest Bt cotton are also experiencing allergic- and flu-like symptoms (25).
Thus, Bt-toxin production within our intestines might simultaneously trigger immune responses, compromise our digestive tract, and expose the blood to undigested food (which may further trigger immune responses).
And now the bad news: a 2011 Canadian study conducted at Sherbrooke Hospital discovered that 93% of the pregnant women they tested had Bt-toxin from Monsantos corn in their blood. And so did 80% of their unborn fetuses (26).
The toxin is likely to 'wash out' of our blood fairly quickly. If that is the case, how can we explain why more than 9 out of 10 women had it circulating? It must be that the intake of Bt-toxin must be very frequent. But Canadians dont eat that many corn chips and tortillas. They do eat lots of corn derivatives like corn syrup, but these highly processed foods no longer have the Bt-toxin present.
The authors of the study speculate that the source of the Bt-toxin in the blood must have been the meat and dairy of animals fed Bt corn. This assumes that the Bt-toxin protein remains intact through the animals entire digestive process and then again through the humans digestive process after they eat the meat or dairy.
A more plausible explanation may be that Bt-toxin genes transfer from corn chips or tortillas into our gut bacteria. The active genes then produce the (substance) on a continuous basis inside the intestinal tract, which then gets into our blood. And for pregnant mothers, the toxin then travels through the placenta into their fetuses.
<...>
21. Green M et al. Public health implications of the microbial pesticide Bacillus thuringiensis: An epidemiological study, Oregon, 1985-86, Amer J Public Health. 1990;80(7):848852. Noble MA, Riben PD, and Cook GJ. Microbiological and epidemiological surveillance program to monitor the health effects of Foray 48B BTK spray (Vancouver, BC: Ministry of Forests, Province of British Columbi, Sep. 30, 1992)
22. Vazquez et al. Intragastric and intraperitoneal administration of Cry1Ac protoxin from Bacillus thuringiensis induces systemic and mucosal antibody responses in mice. 18971912. Vazquez et al. Characterization of the mucosal and systemic immune response induced by Cry1Ac protein from Bacillus thuringiensis HD 73 in mice. Brazilian Journal of Medical and Biological Research. 2000;33:147155. Vazquez et al. Bacillus thuringiensis Cry1Ac protoxin is a potent systemic and mucosal adjuvant. Scandanavian Journal of Immunology. 1999;49:578584. See also Vazquez-Padron et al. 147 (2000b).
23. Fares NH, El-Sayed AK. Fine Structural Changes in the Ileum of Mice Fed on Endotoxin Treated Potatoes and Transgenic Potatoes. Natural Toxins. 1998;6:219233.
24. Finamore A et al. Intestinal and Peripheral Immune Response to MON810 Maize Ingestion in Weaning and Old Mice. J Agric Food Chem. 2008;56:11533-11539.
25. Gupta A et al. Impact of Bt Cotton on Farmers Health (in Barwani and Dhar District of Madhya Pradesh). Investigation Report, OctDec 2005. Also, "Bt cotton causing allergic reaction in MP; cattle dead," Bhopal, Nov. 23, 2005.
26. Aris A, Leblanc S. Maternal and fetal exposure to pesticides associated to genetically modified foods in Eastern Townships of Quebec, Canada. Reprod Toxicol. 2011 May;31(4):528-33. Epub 2011 Feb 18.
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Shit happens in France because politicians FEAR people. In the U.S.A., they LAUGH.
Auggie
May 2014
#5
what's "all over the internet" is anti-science, anti-intellectual fear mongering...
mike_c
May 2014
#153
Do you have a credible link or are we just going to go with unsubstantiated conspiracy theories? nt
Gore1FL
May 2014
#66
Of course the FDA agrees with Monsanto, they appointed most of the FDA commissioners! Sheesh!
DeSwiss
May 2014
#55
PRESS RELEASE > Environmental Chemicals Harm Reproductive Health: Ob-Gyns Advocate for Policy Change
proverbialwisdom
May 2014
#131
Don't like ENSSER as source? Gone. PLEASE FOCUS ON THE INTERSECTION OF HUMAN HEALTH & BIOTECH FOOD.
proverbialwisdom
May 2014
#132
I deleted all matters ENSSR from the post you are criticizing and added post #140. Please review. nt
proverbialwisdom
May 2014
#141
How's this grab you? MOST soy is GMO, maybe this isn't, wouldn't u like more testing on soy formula?
proverbialwisdom
May 2014
#140
So what happens when someone produces a GM corn that meets all the standards?
C_eh_N_eh_D_eh
May 2014
#10
NOBODY said "science is scary". A shitload of scientists said MONSANTO is scary.
loudsue
May 2014
#13
People say science is scary all the time, and it's not the scientists I'm worried about.
C_eh_N_eh_D_eh
May 2014
#18
That is the meme of Monsanto and other large pesticide/herbicide companies ...
MindMover
May 2014
#80
Again I will state that you are parroting Monsantos meme .... which is ridiculous ... nt
MindMover
May 2014
#82
It's quite astonishing, watching you fight the good fight against know-nothings here
FarrenH
May 2014
#116
Hasn't shown a negative impact on humans or rats? Not true, check it out.
proverbialwisdom
May 2014
#109
I do not know more about the status of this ban in France. Do you know about this?
proverbialwisdom
May 2014
#90
My response to your post was in error. It's fixed, why are you repeating yourself?
proverbialwisdom
May 2014
#110
That web site is anything but creepy. It is focused on getting the science right.
HuckleB
May 2014
#177
Statement by the AAAS Board of Directors On Labeling of Genetically Modified Foods
HuckleB
May 2014
#165