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161. If you're confused, it might be because you go to anti-GMO political sources.

Thu May 8, 2014, 09:14 PM

May 2014

The science of the matter is ridiculously clear. You seem to be bent on ignoring the 2000 peer reviewed and post publication criticized studies that show GMOs to be safe. Hundreds of those are independent studies. Legitimate science organizations around the world have looked at the research and noted what it says: There are definitely no more concerns with GMOs than any other type of hybrid. Of course, those other types of hybrids aren't studied very much at all. Thus, the politics is from a group of uninformed ideologues who are choosing to ignore the science. Please don't ignore that.

Partial list of studies with independent funding:
http://www.biofortified.org/genera/studies-for-genera/independent-funding/

An overview of the last 10 years of genetically engineered crop safety
research (peer reviewed journal)
http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Nicolia-20131.pdf

Brief on worldwide science organizations who've looked at the evidence
http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/GLP-Science-and-GMOs.pdf

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Total Ban On GM Corn in France Follows Popular Opposition [View all] Judi Lynn May 2014 OP

Key paragraph from the link: Auggie May 2014 #1

And pissed-off in the ''right direction.'' DeSwiss May 2014 #4

Shit happens in France because politicians FEAR people. In the U.S.A., they LAUGH. Auggie May 2014 #5

USA politicians listen to the money bosses--Kennedy slipped Supersedeas May 2014 #159

Not informed by scientific research. ZombieHorde May 2014 #53

+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB May 2014 #69

''Informed,'' as opposed to ''propagandized'' is the operative word here. DeSwiss May 2014 #167

In some ways this is backdoor protectionism. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #108

Indeed. Politics, not science, is the real issue. HuckleB May 2014 #121

an ill informed, anti-science mob did this.... mike_c May 2014 #152

Cmon USA, you can do it ... MindMover May 2014 #2

I recommend this post +1,000,000 !!!!! loudsue May 2014 #11

Here corporations have far more influence than human beings. Enthusiast May 2014 #57

This is about Monsanto suing all the corn farmers The Second Stone May 2014 #144

Can you link us to a story about this? HuckleB May 2014 #145

Great news - here are the links bananas May 2014 #3

Based on what science? Texano78704 May 2014 #6

+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB May 2014 #9

Look it up. It is all over the internet. loudsue May 2014 #12

Can you please link us to this "science done in Europe...?" HuckleB May 2014 #23

+1 lunasun May 2014 #51

It's not FarrenH May 2014 #60

Most GMO "science" is from bloggers who are no more a scientist than I am. chrisa May 2014 #75

Hundreds of independent studies. HuckleB May 2014 #77

^^^ ditto marions ghost May 2014 #148

Odd that you would ditto a post that made a claim that had been disproved. HuckleB May 2014 #150

I agree with this part of it: marions ghost May 2014 #160

If you're confused, it might be because you go to anti-GMO political sources. HuckleB May 2014 #161

So you don't like the Canadian point of view... marions ghost May 2014 #163

So, you have no actual response. Got it. HuckleB May 2014 #164

I know too much about scientific studies marions ghost May 2014 #171

If you really knew about science Bonx May 2014 #174

I don't see any evidence of your claim to know much about scientific studies. HuckleB May 2014 #176

what's "all over the internet" is anti-science, anti-intellectual fear mongering... mike_c May 2014 #153

Exactly. HuckleB May 2014 #158

Yes, absolutely. DeSwiss May 2014 #14

Thank you for providing a link to a discredited study Texano78704 May 2014 #40

That's bullshit. DeSwiss May 2014 #44

Hmm. HuckleB May 2014 #49

Study has been discredited by scientists without vested interests FarrenH May 2014 #61

The burden of proof rests on the person making the claim. Gore1FL May 2014 #42

Monsanto claims GMOs are safe. DeSwiss May 2014 #46

The FDA apparently agrees with Monsanto. Gore1FL May 2014 #47

And many other corporations. Monsanto is a small part of the GMO biz. HuckleB May 2014 #50

FDA apparently agrees with Monsanto. lunasun May 2014 #52

Do you have a credible link or are we just going to go with unsubstantiated conspiracy theories? nt Gore1FL May 2014 #66

I'm laughing too marions ghost May 2014 #85

Of course the FDA agrees with Monsanto, they appointed most of the FDA commissioners! Sheesh! DeSwiss May 2014 #55

There are in fact problems with the FDA and industry influence FarrenH May 2014 #63

And of course you conveniently leave out the names brentspeak May 2014 #138

Here are some. HuckleB May 2014 #151

Organic farmers claim organic apples are safe FarrenH May 2014 #62

Apparently "rational people" have never heard of Golden Rice FarrenH May 2014 #59

A lot of people in India do not want to grow or eat Golden Rice marions ghost May 2014 #86

Greenpeace is not a legitimate source when it comes to GMOs. HuckleB May 2014 #92

Greenpeace is a legitimate source marions ghost May 2014 #96

How exactly are you defining "experimental product"? ag_dude May 2014 #97

Seriously marions ghost May 2014 #98

How am I defending Monsanto? ag_dude May 2014 #100

1. You know why marions ghost May 2014 #101

So, in the billions of people that have consumed it in 15+ years... ag_dude May 2014 #102

Not enough marions ghost May 2014 #103

Use of the shill gambit is not legitimate. HuckleB May 2014 #106

I do not know where to even begin with this kind of unsound reasoning FarrenH May 2014 #113

It's clear marions ghost May 2014 #127

Really? FarrenH May 2014 #130

PRESS RELEASE > Environmental Chemicals Harm Reproductive Health: Ob-Gyns Advocate for Policy Change proverbialwisdom May 2014 #131

Don't like ENSSER as source? Gone. PLEASE FOCUS ON THE INTERSECTION OF HUMAN HEALTH & BIOTECH FOOD. proverbialwisdom May 2014 #132

Still not replying to what I wrote FarrenH May 2014 #134

I deleted all matters ENSSR from the post you are criticizing and added post #140. Please review. nt proverbialwisdom May 2014 #141

Sir or madam GMO industry spokesperson: marions ghost May 2014 #133

Maybe you could present something that isn't just bad anti-GMO propaganda? HuckleB May 2014 #136

Hey where's FarrenH? marions ghost May 2014 #137

You can call it what you want. HuckleB May 2014 #139

I have never attacked anyone in this thread marions ghost May 2014 #142

You have repeatedly used the shill gambit attack. HuckleB May 2014 #143

Pointless marions ghost May 2014 #146

So you can't back up any of your claims. HuckleB May 2014 #149

How's this grab you? MOST soy is GMO, maybe this isn't, wouldn't u like more testing on soy formula? proverbialwisdom May 2014 #140

No, it's not. HuckleB May 2014 #105

sirc.org is an industry front group (Social Issues Research Centre) bananas May 2014 #168

And Sourcewatch ignores the science on many issues. HuckleB May 2014 #170

BMJ Lobby Watch: The Social Issues Research Centre bananas May 2014 #169

Monsanto has nothing to do with Golden Rice FarrenH May 2014 #117

You can equate marions ghost May 2014 #123

I supported Greenpeace until they began this idiocy FarrenH May 2014 #111

seriously uh huh marions ghost May 2014 #112

Yes, I did FarrenH May 2014 #114

"Hippy dippy neo Luddites" marions ghost May 2014 #115

Hippy-dippy neo-luddites FarrenH May 2014 #118

You again marions ghost May 2014 #128

Political science JackRiddler May 2014 #45

Well said! marions ghost May 2014 #87

Nothing peer reviewed. ZombieHorde May 2014 #54

+++ FarrenH May 2014 #58

Viva La France.. Cha May 2014 #7

K&R DeSwiss May 2014 #8

The Seralini "study" was debunked years ago psiman May 2014 #21

I'll worry about my own reputation, you worry about yours. DeSwiss May 2014 #32

The bought-and-paid-for meme is bullshit FarrenH May 2014 #64

Yes, and the ''Seralinni's been debunked'' meme...... DeSwiss May 2014 #94

No, it's not a wash. HuckleB May 2014 #107

It's really a drag to see junk science spread at DU. HuckleB May 2014 #33

So what happens when someone produces a GM corn that meets all the standards? C_eh_N_eh_D_eh May 2014 #10

NOBODY said "science is scary". A shitload of scientists said MONSANTO is scary. loudsue May 2014 #13

People say science is scary all the time, and it's not the scientists I'm worried about. C_eh_N_eh_D_eh May 2014 #18

Exactly. HuckleB May 2014 #24

Who is paying you guys? loudsue May 2014 #65

Why the personal attack? HuckleB May 2014 #70

I'm a software analyst and developer FarrenH May 2014 #126

A shitload of scientists say the Global Warming is a fraud psiman May 2014 #22

+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB May 2014 #26

IF that ever happens we'll deal with it then leftyohiolib May 2014 #15

They can't meet the standards. DeSwiss May 2014 #16

+++++^^^^^+++++ marions ghost May 2014 #88

All GMOs are forever banned from our little hilltop in Arkansas, bvar22 May 2014 #17

Check it out. proverbialwisdom May 2014 #20

Reuters article here dipsydoodle May 2014 #19

This is great news for pesticide manufacturers in France. ag_dude May 2014 #25

You win DU post of the day! HuckleB May 2014 #27

The ones that aren't Monsanto, you mean? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #28

MON810 isn't made to "sell lots of Monsanto pesticide" ag_dude May 2014 #29

A plant that is its own pesticide... is pesticide. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #30

I don't think you understood the context of my post. ag_dude May 2014 #31

So it's OK for Monsanto roomtomove May 2014 #34

You're using extremely generic terminology. ag_dude May 2014 #38

+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB May 2014 #48

The non-GMO crops are not Roundup ready? roody May 2014 #36

First, Roundup is a herbicide, not a pesticide. ag_dude May 2014 #39

Enjoy your Roundup ... yummy stuff that Roundup ... MindMover May 2014 #41

Do you understand the difference between pesticide and herbicide? ag_dude May 2014 #56

My mistake, thank you for the correction. proverbialwisdom May 2014 #68

I'll ask again, do you know the difference between herbicides and pesticides? ag_dude May 2014 #72

I know that I do not want to ingest herbicides or pesticides ... MindMover May 2014 #73

I have no issue with that, it's your choice. ag_dude May 2014 #74

It is my choice to stop feeding my body poisons however, MindMover May 2014 #78

I guess you are against the French GMO ban then... ag_dude May 2014 #79

That is the meme of Monsanto and other large pesticide/herbicide companies ... MindMover May 2014 #80

Borrowed analogy? ag_dude May 2014 #81

Again I will state that you are parroting Monsantos meme .... which is ridiculous ... nt MindMover May 2014 #82

How cliche. ag_dude May 2014 #83

Enjoy your Roundup ... yummy stuff that Roundup ...nt MindMover May 2014 #84

The REALFOOD.ORG Reader: Pesticides HuckleB May 2014 #125

It's quite astonishing, watching you fight the good fight against know-nothings here FarrenH May 2014 #116

Yes, this is the scary part of DU. HuckleB May 2014 #122

And accurate labeling, too. LanternWaste May 2014 #173

If the labeling makes sense, and has a legitimate, science based purpose. HuckleB May 2014 #175

But organic does not mean free from herbicides and pesticides. HuckleB May 2014 #76

Yeah, yeah, I edited the original post (#68) and made the fix there. proverbialwisdom May 2014 #93

In terms... sendero May 2014 #135

Roundup is an herbicide and a pesticide. Agony May 2014 #104

Hasn't shown a negative impact on humans or rats? Not true, check it out. proverbialwisdom May 2014 #109

Check it out. proverbialwisdom May 2014 #67

You saw the part about it being certain areas? ag_dude May 2014 #71

I do not know more about the status of this ban in France. Do you know about this? proverbialwisdom May 2014 #90

Yes, I do, and I ask yet again, do you understand the difference... ag_dude May 2014 #95

My response to your post was in error. It's fixed, why are you repeating yourself? proverbialwisdom May 2014 #110

REMEMBER ....Monsanto also tried to expand their monopoly with roomtomove May 2014 #35

If we're going to discuss science, please be honest about things. Thanks. HuckleB May 2014 #37

That one is working well today ... in the form of GMO + Roundup ... MindMover May 2014 #43

Thank you France for daring to say no to Monsanto marions ghost May 2014 #89

Check it out. proverbialwisdom May 2014 #91

I think Whole Foods says they will marions ghost May 2014 #99

Go France! LeftOfWest May 2014 #119

Umm. HuckleB May 2014 #120

-1. closeupready May 2014 #154

So... HuckleB May 2014 #156

+1 BuddhaGirl May 2014 #124

Viva La France marions ghost May 2014 #129

France is so awesome! closeupready May 2014 #155

This week's GMO labeling news from Vermont marions ghost May 2014 #147

AN ORGANIC FARMER AND A GENETICIST WALK INTO A FIELD HuckleB May 2014 #157

American Academy of Environmental Medicine position on GMOs: marions ghost May 2014 #162

This organization is highly suspect, and that's being kind. HuckleB May 2014 #166

What a creepy website you posted marions ghost May 2014 #172

That web site is anything but creepy. It is focused on getting the science right. HuckleB May 2014 #177

Statement by the AAAS Board of Directors On Labeling of Genetically Modified Foods HuckleB May 2014 #165