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dipsydoodle

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35. Worth noting though
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:35 AM
May 2014

that reverse feed supplies from Europe will be at THE market price albeit that gas will be priced below the $487 : most likely c. $400. There are however volume limits on which Slovakia and Poland are able to supply as neither are prepared to breach their own contracts with Gazprom. Aside from that they will be reverse feeding what is supplied to them via Ukraine, neither country is on Nord Stream, so if the supply is shut by Gazprom due to Ukraine's belligerence there will be nothing to reverse feed. Either / both Poland and Slovakia will supply in specified bulk unit numbers given 48 hours notice giving them an element of control regarding payment - don't pay / don't get.

The EU Energy Minister has already told Ukraine that they are definitely to settle the current debt with Gazprom. Last time Ukraine played up and the supply ceased for some days German industrial production fell by 25% for that duration.

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I think it's between econmic ties to EU/US/NATO or Russia/Eurasia. joshcryer May 2014 #1
The general background re. economic ties was as follows. dipsydoodle May 2014 #5
Putin wanted the EU talks stopped. joshcryer May 2014 #6
Russia only supplies gas at preferential terms to CIS member states. dipsydoodle May 2014 #7
Pretty sure Yanukovych just wanted to get re-elected. joshcryer May 2014 #14
Wasn't so much "the EU deal wasn't the best" dipsydoodle May 2014 #16
IMF is giving 17 billion. joshcryer May 2014 #29
Confirmation here from Nov. 27th 2013. dipsydoodle May 2014 #30
So they sign a trade agreement with a bankrupt country? joshcryer May 2014 #31
There is a paradox dipsydoodle May 2014 #32
Fair enough. joshcryer May 2014 #33
Comparisons with Greece are difficult. dipsydoodle May 2014 #37
BBC: Pro-Russia rebel vote to go ahead pampango May 2014 #2
800,000 #referendum ballot papers destroyed by fire joshcryer May 2014 #3
Well once accidents like that start happening you have to question whether it's going to be rigged davidpdx May 2014 #4
No Question, Sir: A Vote Under Present Conditions In the East is A Rigged Vote The Magistrate May 2014 #8
That's what the referendum will show. Igel May 2014 #27
This Obviously Makes Hash Of The 'Go Putin!' Cheer-Leaders' Position, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #9
Poll: Most Ukrainians support full or partial refusal of gas purchases from Russia dipsydoodle May 2014 #10
People Often Answer a Different Question Than the One They Are Asked, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #11
Yes but come the winter they might conclude dipsydoodle May 2014 #12
Possibly, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #13
Putin certainly likes leveraging that one. joshcryer May 2014 #15
Ah I see... Adrahil May 2014 #19
Not particularly. dipsydoodle May 2014 #20
OK, but.... Adrahil May 2014 #21
Its not so much I don't have a harsh word for Russia - dipsydoodle May 2014 #22
Welp, it is. But for the people living there, this is DEADLY serious. NT Adrahil May 2014 #23
I sympaphise with their population dipsydoodle May 2014 #24
Ukraine a nuisance for being leveraged by Russia. joshcryer May 2014 #28
On the subject of gas dipsydoodle May 2014 #17
I suspect they're going to see if Russia charges market rate. joshcryer May 2014 #34
Worth noting though dipsydoodle May 2014 #35
No doubt Russia is going to get paid. joshcryer May 2014 #38
'Last time Ukraine played up and... supply ceased... German industrial production fell by 25%...' freshwest May 2014 #39
From January this year : dipsydoodle May 2014 #40
Don't hang your hat on that Telegraph piece -it's terribly biased Iterate May 2014 #41
If the people of Northern Maine wanted to break away and become part of Quebec, Nye Bevan May 2014 #18
You changed the title of the story Jemon May 2014 #25
When He Posted It early This Morning, Sir, It was The Right Headline The Magistrate May 2014 #26
Something's going down in Mariupol Bosonic May 2014 #36
They have worked for decades towards their full EU membership. Putin didn't want that!! Sunlei May 2014 #42
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