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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
60. yes & the pressures on the land in the late 19th and in the 20th Century adds to the desert
Fri May 16, 2014, 11:40 AM
May 2014

The whole of the San Joaquin Valley used to be lakes before the cattle moved in and then huge farms.

Lands need roaming grazing wildlife (not cattle) to keep grasses seeds spreading and to keep brush wildfire tinder, from taking over.

Lands need tree cover to hold the soil, keep the soil from baking and blowing away. To keep that moist tule fog rolling in you have to have trees.

State wide map - pinto May 2014 #1
Most of southern CA is a desert. former9thward May 2014 #2
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Have you been to Egypt or modern Iraq lately? former9thward May 2014 #12
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Fail. former9thward May 2014 #18
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LOL former9thward May 2014 #23
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LOL you for real? nt laundry_queen May 2014 #45
Probably not, irrigation fails, eventually. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #46
"once was the lush paradise and cradle of civilization" greyl May 2014 #35
No, the Los Angeles and San Diego areas are not deserts CreekDog May 2014 #54
Apply your admonitions to yourself. former9thward May 2014 #59
You posted ignorant nonsense and I corrected you on it. CreekDog May 2014 #62
Just for your info Wiki is not a scientific source. former9thward May 2014 #65
yes & the pressures on the land in the late 19th and in the 20th Century adds to the desert Sunlei May 2014 #60
7th largest economy on Earth was built on cheap water thelordofhell May 2014 #3
"cheap" could be the other word we use for "stolen" villager May 2014 #4
Reminds me that I must see Chinatown again. nt valerief May 2014 #7
"The future, Mr. Gitts." villager May 2014 #20
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You're new to the history of water in the West? villager May 2014 #24
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A good place to start is Marc Reisner's "Cadillac Desert" . . . Journeyman May 2014 #41
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Edited thelordofhell May 2014 #38
wrong - rule of thumb CA is usually ahead of the curve upaloopa May 2014 #34
Wrong thelordofhell May 2014 #37
Wrong upaloopa May 2014 #39
Read my post again thelordofhell May 2014 #42
I am not going to play games with you upaloopa May 2014 #44
The state should have helped subsidize the running of the plant thelordofhell May 2014 #47
we were not in a drought 5 years ago CreekDog May 2014 #55
You mean the state where we get most of our fruits and vegetables? Lovely. nt valerief May 2014 #6
I shudder to think of what that will do to food prices. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #26
unfortunately, it's already happening shanti May 2014 #64
I can't tell from reading that article ... knightmaar May 2014 #8
I know this sounds like it is off topic, but it really isn't Hestia May 2014 #9
Good idea. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #27
We need more reservoirs Auggie May 2014 #10
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They displace wildlife and people for one Auggie May 2014 #36
Where? All the best sites are occupied, and not many even marginal locations remain. hatrack May 2014 #52
Like I said, they displace people and wildlife Auggie May 2014 #53
"conservation is naive"? are you lost? CreekDog May 2014 #56
Water conservation alone isn't enough Auggie May 2014 #61
It's bad here...really bad n/t PasadenaTrudy May 2014 #11
Still have 85 years to beat this century record seveneyes May 2014 #13
I don't watch local TV but Politicalboi May 2014 #14
There are billboards all over Central California (inland) Le Taz Hot May 2014 #30
I love driving thru there and seeing... Bigmack May 2014 #48
There are RWNG's everywhere, Le Taz Hot May 2014 #49
Slack! I never mentioned people... only signs... Bigmack May 2014 #58
Would it be possible MoreGOPoop May 2014 #15
Only until you learn something about maths, physics & geography. Nihil May 2014 #50
A strong El Nino is both good and bad news if it happens. herding cats May 2014 #25
In Sonoma County, we've only had about 40% of our average rainfall for the season. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #28
Buck up and stock up on sand bags Brother Buzz May 2014 #33
I have lived in North California my entire life and it seems like severe long running droughts.. olddad56 May 2014 #66
Or wet winters followed by severe long running droughts Brother Buzz May 2014 #67
the high water of 1986 followed a long drought and filled the states reservoirs in one year. olddad56 May 2014 #68
The drought is proobably being caused by global climate change. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #29
we are do to have an El Nino this winter warrior1 May 2014 #40
It's complicated. antiquie May 2014 #51
shametheycan't use some of those old pipelines crisscross the USA to move fresh water in from floods Sunlei May 2014 #57
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2014 #63
Yeah I hear it's getting really bad in that area. rupertps8or28 May 2014 #69
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