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DeadLetterOffice

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27. Perhaps, you don't know anything about Asperger's
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:26 PM
May 2014

It is unclear whether he was officially diagnosed with Asperger’s, although family members are quoted in some articles as saying that he was “on the spectrum.” (The Daily Mail claimed he was diagnosed, but then admitted they were wrong; but his family's lawyer maybe claimed he was -- it's not as clear cut as you make it). I haven't seen anything anywhere confirming a known diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder.

But that does not in any case address points 2 & 3 (which were the important ones there, sorry) that you are proclaiming that this alleged Asperger's and/or BPD was the underlying cause of his killing spree, and describing in broad and entirely inaccurate brushstrokes what ALL people with Asperger's and/or BPD are like.

Go educate yourself, please, "dear." You are at best spouting misinformation, and at worst actively choosing to say untrue, prejudicial, hurtful things.

Dvoskin added that there is no empirical evidence of an increased risk of violence among people with Asperger’s.
“There are two cases where uninformed, self-styled experts said that a person had Asperger’s, and committed a heinous crime,” he said. “I would suggest you do the math of all the people diagnosed with Asperger’s in the United States and see what percentage two is of that number.”
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"In general, violent behavior is not a characteristic of Asperger’s,” said Dr. Shahla Chehrazi-Raffle, a forensic clinical psychologist teaching at the University of California, San Francisco. “Aggressive behavior or angry outbursts can occur, in cases where situations are misread. But this kind of behavior of accumulating guns, of planning how he’s going to kill other people, is not associated with Asperger’s.
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Other experts say no studies have been done confirming a link between Asperger’s and violent behavior, and that the fixation on Rodger’s reported Asperger’s is more of a collective attempt to come to terms with tragedy by distinguishing ourselves from the person who has allegedly committed the crime.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/28/don-t-blame-asperger-s-for-massacres.html

Asperger’s actually does not exist as an official diagnosis among mental health professionals anymore, though it still is a commonly used term. {Dr. Daniel Son} says as of a year ago, it now is simply considered part of the autism spectrum, and most who had been diagnosed with Asperger’s are thought to be high functioning and able to live relatively normal lives. Son, who treats a number of young autism patients, says that obsessive behavior can result from the disease and patients can become fixated on certain issues. But other factors usually come into play when behavior becomes overwhelmingly violent.
“It’s really more associated with a troubled upbringing rather than the autism,” Son said.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/blaming-shootings-on-autism-a-mistake-experts-2014-05-25



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I think sometimes when these tragedies happen MissMillie May 2014 #1
He took a very long time explaining why he did this, in his manifesto. Demit May 2014 #6
I'm one of those people who refuse to take his word 951-Riverside May 2014 #8
And Im guessing you're one of those people who didn't bother to read his manifesto. Demit May 2014 #13
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Perhaps, you don't know anything about Asperger's DeadLetterOffice May 2014 #27
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