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41. Your excerpt is NOT from the US Constitution.

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:08 PM

Mar 2012

Although you cite with certainty and conviction, annexing the wording in your excerpt to the US Constitution is somewhat problematic. I don't think you meant to make the addition but I feel duty bound to point it out

Further, "probable cause protection" emanates from the 4th Amendment of the USC, not the 5th or the 14th Amendments

Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Your excerpt comes from Florida Statutes- XLVI Crimes Section. But the reference cited is only a general precursor to the specifics of the law. Here is the link for an in depth analysis of the use of deadly force as it applies to Floridians and anyone visiting Florida!

http://law.onecle.com/florida/crimes/776.013.htm

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Sanford's City Manager posts open letter on municipal website: [View all] MD20 Mar 2012 OP

The city manager can be fired, too, I assume. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #1

Yes the CM can be fired too; and, he mightl be unless he acts now! MD20 Mar 2012 #2

Sounds like a level-headed and objective, yet cautious manager, who also understands Thegonagle Mar 2012 #3

+1 Scuba Mar 2012 #4

agree - sounds like a rational manager DrDan Mar 2012 #5

Of course we are crazy.......Crazy about protecting our children!! mrocque Mar 2012 #6

It was bullshit and ass-covering Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #8

Keep in mind wysimdnwyg Mar 2012 #10

There CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #12

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Are you sure CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #21

The killer was caught in the act of standing over his victim with a gun, Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #27

That CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #31

There is police testimony. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #29

"It is possible that Martin was handing Zimmerman his ass. " greiner3 Mar 2012 #40

As a martial artist. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #52

Police chief gets no-confidence vote in Trayvon Martin case maddezmom Mar 2012 #7

The woman in Call #7 is a total basket case. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #9

You should also look at Zimmerman's 911 calls Alcibiades Mar 2012 #13

What an awful thing to say. As a mother, I would be a "basket case" too if I'd witnessed that. yardwork Mar 2012 #17

I saw an extended interview with Mr. Bonaparte last night on A Brand New World Mar 2012 #11

Thanks. Will read this. freshwest Mar 2012 #14

The letter is coherent and informative. It provides potentially credible explanations for a lot. slackmaster Mar 2012 #15

Note that the city manager says that the "stand your ground" law prohibited them from arrest. yardwork Mar 2012 #18

That's his interpretation of the law slackmaster Mar 2012 #19

My point is that the city manager and the police chief have both cited that law as the reason. yardwork Mar 2012 #20

" based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time." PavePusher Mar 2012 #24

I have yet to hear amuse bouche Mar 2012 #22

Police testimony says he was Zimmerman was injured. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #30

Thank you Jeb Bush and your fucked up "stand your ground" law jpak Mar 2012 #23

No, a criminal skates due to inept/corrupt police. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #25

That law is awful amuse bouche Mar 2012 #32

Only if police don't do their jobs properly. PavePusher Mar 2012 #33

Nope amuse bouche Mar 2012 #34

That's actually not true. PavePusher Mar 2012 #37

It is true amuse bouche Mar 2012 #45

There is plenty of evidence coming to light of both Zimmermans actions... PavePusher Mar 2012 #46

There is no defense of this law amuse bouche Mar 2012 #47

Please open YOUR eyes. PavePusher Mar 2012 #49

"So please stuff your invented ad hominem back into the sphincter you pulled it from. amuse bouche Mar 2012 #50

More invented ad hominem. PavePusher Mar 2012 #51

he's going to be writing more than a letter arely staircase Mar 2012 #26

Says Florida law PROHIBITS arrest. They couldnt arrest him. Kablooie Mar 2012 #28

I believe there are 15 other states that have similar laws. MD20 Mar 2012 #35

Actually, the cops are *always* prohibited from arresting you without probable cause. X_Digger Mar 2012 #36

It's hard to believe that standing over a dead body with a smoking gun is not probable cause. Kablooie Mar 2012 #38

Especially with the 911 tape showing him chasing Martin. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #39

Your excerpt is NOT from the US Constitution. MD20 Mar 2012 #41

Yes, I meant fourth, not fifth (was talking 5th in another thread). X_Digger Mar 2012 #43

In certain communities you'd be surprised at how much the cops can stretch "probable cause" Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #42

It wouldn't surprise me, but I still wouldn't endorse it, even when the result is one I like. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #44

yeah, but with this law, I can just see it newspeak Mar 2012 #48