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RainDog

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65. The majority of Republicans voted against it
Sat May 31, 2014, 05:36 AM
May 2014

172 of them voted against it... so, it's not like some radical change in position for the party as a whole - and Rand Paul wants to run for President as the leader of that party, so he is going to kowtow to the constituents of that party.

ergo: he wants to put science up for sale...how convenient for major corporations - http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/senator-rand-paul-says-forget-fed-s-11-02-04/

Republican Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky has introduced a bill that would chop a half trillion dollars out of the federal budget. And although Paul was trained as an ophthalmologist, his axe doesn’t show any mercy to science.

The National Science Foundation would lose 62 percent of its budget because Paul argues that private industry and the states, not the federal government, should be paying for research. But there’s no evidence that industry wants to foot that bill, and the states are already financially strapped.


This, alone, is motivation for me to vote against Paul and to make sure everyone I know would oppose him because this is the sort of "Stalinist" capitalism that would destroy an entire nation. That's no exaggeration, imo, when you know about the way scientists have been made to dispute reality to please their employers. This, to me, makes him like the anti-christ of Republicans. That's how horrid he is. I say "Stalinist" because of Lysenko-ism - science forced to comply with extremist ideology - whether communist, in Lysenko's case, or corporatist, as in Paul's case.

His lies about his stance toward the drug war are just part of being a Republican. We'll see how he votes on this issue and others.

HOWEVER - the other Republicans? Rohrabacher is in California and is a co-sponsor of the Polis bill to remove cannabis from the CSA and have it controlled by the ATF (like alcohol.) California isn't Kentucky. Rand did go in with McConnell on the hemp bill, however.

I can't tell you why others voted as they did, but my guess, as I noted here before, is these congress people want to provide cover for legal medical marijuana in their states based upon seeing actual incidents, via Gupta's reports, that showed mmj isn't just about an excuse for stoners - there are legitimate reasons to use cannabis as medicine - an herbal supplement...

Since Gupta's report, the FDA has fast-tracked an epilepsy study... while, before Gupta's report - research on treatment of PTSD for vets couldn't even get a response, and then it was a no....Even tho Israel already treats vets with cannabis for PTSD. Gupta's reports made it impossible for most people to continue to claim there's no medical benefit without looking like a fool or tool.

I really can't stress enough how important Gupta's reportage was because he busted all the stupid stoner stereotypes that have been used to dismiss this issue for so long.

He outright challenged the DEA and said federal agencies had lied to him, the rest of the medical community, and the American people. Gupta APOLOGIZED for being so wrong on an issue. People saw children who were having multiple seizures in a day with epilepsy - which can lead to permanent brain damage or death - in fact, one child in Indiana died right after Gupta's report, from seizures.

Look at the list of all these "red" states that have pending legislation for medical marijuana this year.

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=002481

These legislators in state houses don't want to vote for medical marijuana and then deal with DEA raids. The reason for this spate of medical mj legislation, again, is a direct consequence of Gupta's reports on cannabis.

This is why what Gupta did is so important. And, I assume, why 49 Republicans signed on to this amendment.






Proud of California for this. Good work Rohrabacher and Farr! tofuandbeer May 2014 #1
Symbolic only as long as Marijuana remains illegal under federal law. n/t Mr.Bill May 2014 #2
LOL RainDog May 2014 #3
I agree, it's a long, slow battle. Mr.Bill May 2014 #4
This was a bipartisan effort -- one of the cosponsors was GOP. They like that weed, too. nt MADem May 2014 #5
They know it's a winning issue. Enthusiast May 2014 #33
Rand Paul supports the War on Drugs RainDog May 2014 #35
I'm no Paul fan. Either one. Enthusiast May 2014 #38
Rand supports the bill to crack down on legal states RainDog May 2014 #39
Okay. Enthusiast May 2014 #64
The majority of Republicans voted against it RainDog May 2014 #65
Rand makes statements that sound like he's for legalization when the audience supports it. It's okaawhatever May 2014 #46
Okay. Thanks for the clarification. Enthusiast May 2014 #63
The tax revenues alone are a Big Deal. nt MADem May 2014 #45
Medical marijuana isn't always taxed RainDog May 2014 #48
Where medical mj exists, recreational will follow. MADem May 2014 #49
Well... California has had medical mj since the late 1990s RainDog May 2014 #50
Next time we will pass it. Third time is the charm. nt bemildred May 2014 #51
Hope so RainDog May 2014 #53
Wait till CA sees how much money CO makes. MADem May 2014 #52
The first state in in the midwest RainDog May 2014 #55
It's coming in 2016. The big boys with the money will do an initiative then. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #54
do you have any links RainDog May 2014 #56
Well, here's a start: Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #57
Thanks so much! RainDog May 2014 #62
WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!1!!!1!!!!This is HUGH!1!1111! Tsiyu May 2014 #6
Yeah, always happy to hear good news! RainDog May 2014 #15
Thanks for your good work, RainDog. Uncle Joe May 2014 #7
Thanks to you and others for kicking the "call" thread RainDog May 2014 #14
Yes, thanks to everyone Uncle Joe May 2014 #17
Thanks for the kind words RainDog May 2014 #19
btw RainDog May 2014 #43
That's an excellent and I believe even enlightening suggestion. Uncle Joe May 2014 #44
Prohibition is a failed public policy. nt TeamPooka May 2014 #8
Kick for sanity! Cha May 2014 #9
Michele Leonhart! DeSwiss May 2014 #10
Legal weed? AAAhhhh!! it's the end of the world!! nikto May 2014 #11
It's a start! progressoid May 2014 #12
Will Senate pass it? TRoN33 May 2014 #13
It's an amendment to a larger bill RainDog May 2014 #16
A (rare) vote for sanity Throd May 2014 #18
Here's a list to find your Senator RainDog May 2014 #20
WOW! Marrah_G May 2014 #21
Please please please let me see the roll call Reter May 2014 #22
Here it is, Reter. Uncle Joe May 2014 #23
LOL RainDog May 2014 #25
Thank you! Reter May 2014 #27
Another welcome to DU to you, Reter RainDog May 2014 #28
Only a handful of Dems voted against it, including Debbie Wasserman Schulz. WTF? Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #31
Debbie is an insider all the way. Enthusiast May 2014 #34
Pelosi voted FOR RainDog May 2014 #37
I wonder if Wasserman Schultz and Wilson are in heavily gerrymandered districts and the idea of Uncle Joe May 2014 #40
I also wonder about Cooper's vote RainDog May 2014 #41
Yes, that was a major disappointment as well. Uncle Joe May 2014 #42
Cooper isn't one of them..... DeSwiss May 2014 #59
Was Debbie voting against the larger bill? Sometimes that happens with amendments. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #47
Only 17 Democrats voted against it RainDog May 2014 #60
Grimm was grim RainDog May 2014 #24
P.S. Welcome to D.U. Reter. Uncle Joe May 2014 #26
Link to list of Democrats who voted against this amendment RainDog May 2014 #29
Let's hope this leads to a sharp decrease in the number of no-knock, kick-down-the-door Aristus May 2014 #30
That would be a good thing RainDog May 2014 #32
I K&R the post in GD but will do so here too. Sissyk May 2014 #36
The House actually did something? Ash_F May 2014 #58
LOL! n/t RainDog May 2014 #61
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