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MADem

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19. Not just money; fame AND connections. Don't you think it makes sense for a President to
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

nominate a FRIEND to these posts? And who is a better friend than a fundraiser? They've obviously got the POTUS's best interests at heart, and they have delivered in the past. The FRIEND will be honest with the POTUS, and the POTUS can speak frankly with the friend. What's the problem, really?

Every ambassadorship of any substance is like this--and the locals LIKE it because they know they aren't talking to some "functionary" with a particular skillset and "country knowledge," they are talking to someone who has the EAR of the President. That's the purpose; that's the utility of the person.

The DEPUTY ambassador is the person with the diplomatic skills, the country knowledge, the language talent, etc. That's the person the locals go to if they need to do serious business that has to do with simple nuts and bolts. But, if they want a word with the POTUS by proxy, they go to the ambassador.

The system works. The reason it works is because the person the POTUS has chosen, out of friendship and loyalty, can get a call through to the Oval Office if needs must, without having to go through STATE.


This is movie star John Gavin. He was ambassador to Mexico, appointed by Reagan. He didn't have any diplomatic experience.


Here's Shirley "animal crackers in my soup" Temple Black--Gerald Ford sent her to Ghana, and GHW Bush sent her to Czechoslovakia. She had no diplomatic experience when Ford tapped her. She was a rich, conservative Republican, though.

If you want someone with "extensive diplomatic experience" you talk to Number 2 in the pecking order. If you want someone who will get your point across to the POTUS, you talk to the fundraiser/movie star/celebrity/businessperson/tycoon that POTUS has sent along as his rep.

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If I were French, I'd be insulted Demeter Jun 2014 #1
You're not serious, are you? MADem Jun 2014 #16
Shirley Temple Actually did work and was qualified (go figure...Ronnie screwed up) Demeter Jun 2014 #17
Shirley was a conservative Republican and a Big Money Donor. MADem Jun 2014 #33
"they sent Caroline to Japan hoping she'd get radiation poisoning." TeamPooka Jun 2014 #43
"Joseph P. Kennedy and the Creation of the SEC (1934-35)" ucrdem Jun 2014 #24
"Set a thief to catch a thief." FDR. MADem Jun 2014 #37
Reagan made John Gavin the Ambassador to Mexico. displacedtexan Jun 2014 #32
It always been part heaven05 Jun 2014 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #6
yeah, yeah heaven05 Jun 2014 #10
So what? IDemo Jun 2014 #8
when it changes as you would wish heaven05 Jun 2014 #9
Not just money; fame AND connections. Don't you think it makes sense for a President to MADem Jun 2014 #19
from wikipedia Demeter Jun 2014 #22
Yes, it does, actually! She was at a party with Henry Kissinger--that's how everyone gets jobs? MADem Jun 2014 #40
I found this.. Cha Jun 2014 #52
If she knows her Le Pens from her Sarkosys from her Hollandes, she's doing better than MADem Jun 2014 #54
Precisely! Oh but, "she raised money for Cha Jun 2014 #58
Funny how it has been OK for every President in the modern 20th Century to put fundraisers in MADem Jun 2014 #59
any excuse to knee jerk. Cha Jun 2014 #60
I'm shocked, shocked frazzled Jun 2014 #3
And what has happened to the strength of our institutions during that period? newthinking Jun 2014 #7
You think this hasn't ALWAYS been the case? NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #18
Pretty much so. Will the French go on strike and start rioting over this? freshwest Jun 2014 #47
meritocracy theaocp Jun 2014 #4
Paris is a plum assignment. Beacool Jun 2014 #5
Joe had already been inaugural chair of the SEC (1932-35) ucrdem Jun 2014 #11
Well, he did score points for having as his mistress the top actress of her time. Beacool Jun 2014 #23
The guy she murders in Sunset Blvd is named Joe. ucrdem Jun 2014 #29
You know what? Beacool Jun 2014 #30
He even had her on the boat with his wife and kids, the basstid! No shame, really! MADem Jun 2014 #41
Turns out she's worked in other Dem administrations: ucrdem Jun 2014 #12
Not that it matters but the U.S. does pay all entertainment expenses. former9thward Jun 2014 #14
Some expenses. But this is Paris. ucrdem Jun 2014 #15
See the link at post 20--there's a reason why rich people are given these jobs; poor folk MADem Jun 2014 #21
See #24 for a note on Joe Kennedy, founding chair of the SEC. ucrdem Jun 2014 #25
And THAT was a "Fox Watching the Henhouse" appointment, too. MADem Jun 2014 #27
Apparently it's more fun to be outraged... greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #28
Precisely. MADem Jun 2014 #31
They have to know how to entertain without apparent effort and in a grand style. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #38
I know for a FACT that wealthy ambassadors supplement the entertainment funds. MADem Jun 2014 #20
As someone directly affected by this kind of appointment, I'm pissed DFW Jun 2014 #13
I'm not pissed--I think it's a good deal all around. MADem Jun 2014 #26
That's NOT the way it worked with my friend, but he was the exception, not the rule DFW Jun 2014 #35
I wouldn't let it trouble me. If the Number Two was an idiot as well, I'd be concerned. MADem Jun 2014 #42
Far be it from me to disagree with you or DFW, but that pic is LOL! freshwest Jun 2014 #45
It's the perfect one to be snarky about him, without being "OTT"--you could always MADem Jun 2014 #49
Yup! But if confronted with orders from the reichwing, I'd use the other. They'd never catch on! freshwest Jun 2014 #50
I recognize and support you as one of the adults in the room, DFW Demeter Jun 2014 #34
It is still a rather diverse group, it seems to me DFW Jun 2014 #36
Is this person unqualified, in your opinion? CTyankee Jun 2014 #53
This is such a NON-STORY. I don't even know why it was posted at DU. Discussionist might be better. dballance Jun 2014 #39
As someone else pointed out the NONSTORY ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #46
Why is this reported as if it is unusual? Every president does this. 6000eliot Jun 2014 #44
It may, as Rick Santorum said, have something to do with the ...uhhh.. unnnnh ... blaaaaaaa.....!!!! MADem Jun 2014 #55
+1000! 6000eliot Jun 2014 #57
according to some republican I was arguing with on quora, redruddyred Jun 2014 #48
Does she speak French...??? Historic NY Jun 2014 #51
Yes, she does. nt MADem Jun 2014 #56
What would Don Siegelman think? Octafish Jun 2014 #61
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