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40. It's an issue, not a partisan election. I remember in the late 90s, my Senior Executive Service
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:19 AM
Jun 2014

Office Chief (I'm civil service) came back from a meeting all steamed because someone wore an "Impeach Clinton" button in a meeting. He asked me if that was legal & I told him I'd find out the answer. I called our designated Ethics Office and they referred me to the US Office of Special Counsel (different from the Ken Starr organization). OSC works hand in hand with the Merit Systems Protection Board to insulate the civil service from partisan politics and keep merit principals paramount in civil service hiring, promotions, assignments and terminations.

OSC told me that advocating or opposing impeachment by wearing a button was non-partisan, not disruptive and protected. That Bill Clinton was no longer a candidate in any partisan election mattered and they said impeachment is a Constitutional process, not a partisan one.

I told my boss the answer. He was not really happy about it but understood the explanation.

So all the folks in this thread proposing constitutional changes to tax churches, are you ready for a good-old fashioned constitutional convention where it's one-state, one vote and Congress & the President aren't involved? My intuition is that there is more to lose than gain.

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So, when does he begin paying taxes and revealing money donors? krispos42 Jun 2014 #1
That's pretty much what I was going to say davidpdx Jun 2014 #21
It's an issue, not a partisan election. I remember in the late 90s, my Senior Executive Service 24601 Jun 2014 #40
Tax The Piss Fred Gilmore Jun 2014 #2
a distraction from all the molestation going on in the Catholic Church, eh Archbishop Cordileone? tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #3
No, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the pedophilia mess Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #20
actually... tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #22
Clearly, you either did not read my post or you did not understand it. Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #28
I see tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #32
I understood your post perfectly Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #41
you are hilarious, thanks tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #49
Do you deny that I summarized what you said? Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #54
I've got a better idea Your Worship..... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #4
good idea, or at least take it away from Churches where child molestation occurs... tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #5
Kiddie Fiddlers Blue Idaho Jun 2014 #6
I hate the "judicial activism" claim Prophet 451 Jun 2014 #7
some should trell this idiot that with 19 states and soon many more having legalized SSM weissmam Jun 2014 #8
Fuck off Cult member... SoapBox Jun 2014 #9
^This^ Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #45
Clearly this one dude represents the entirety of Catholics. onehandle Jun 2014 #10
Exactly! And we know this because the states with the most catholics hughee99 Jun 2014 #43
Here are more of these creeps, plotting to keep the wimmenfolks and teh gays down in Philadelphia: Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #46
Yet another reason why I truly despise the RCC. antiGOPin294 Jun 2014 #11
Pope Francis will be thrilled by these remarks. Same-sex marriage is an evil Satanic plot, after all NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #12
Shhh! Say nothing remotely negative about Pope Photo Op, hater! Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #47
"judicial activism" = overturning laws we like. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #13
How about concubines? brooklynite Jun 2014 #14
Cordileone? KinMd Jun 2014 #15
I'd consider ending tax exempt status for all churches The Second Stone Jun 2014 #16
Me: change Constitution to eliminate tax-exemption for churches truthisfreedom Jun 2014 #17
100% yes!!! SoapBox Jun 2014 #27
Exactly. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #55
What do you bet that Archbishop Salvatore might have some gay tendencies himself? Raphael Campos Jun 2014 #18
I think they spelled his name wrong rpannier Jun 2014 #19
See post #36 n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2014 #42
Everyone else: "lol, no" Arkana Jun 2014 #23
So he wants to enshrine a religious doctrine in the Constitution? yellowcanine Jun 2014 #24
I want a constitutional amendment banning churches that harbor workinclasszero Jun 2014 #25
Like the Church doesn't already Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2014 #26
i Would rather ban Scruffy Rumbler Jun 2014 #29
He really is stupid isn't he? Swede Atlanta Jun 2014 #30
Since the Archbishop Has Sworn Fealty to a Foreign Prince or Potentate Wolf Frankula Jun 2014 #31
downright bizarre to have an archbishop like this in San Francisco MBS Jun 2014 #33
Said the man in a dress. LoisB Jun 2014 #34
He is trying to keep the money coming in from the conservative Catholics CatholicEdHead Jun 2014 #35
"I could've been Governor Cordileone....Senator Cordileone" Ken Burch Jun 2014 #36
It just writes itself, doesn't it? nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #39
God knows what this guy might've got up to with the altar boys. Ken Burch Jun 2014 #37
They are Pedophile criminals warrant46 Jun 2014 #48
Tax the fucker. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #38
Yawn... He's a couple decades too late for that... nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #44
time to revoke Roman Catholic Church's tax exempt status! NuttyFluffers Jun 2014 #50
The 1st Amendment is just fine as written, thank you Zambero Jun 2014 #51
umm...How many on the US Supreme Court are devout Catholics? riversedge Jun 2014 #52
Actually, I think something like 7 of the Justices are Catholic theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #53
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