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maxrandb

(17,431 posts)
81. I'm a Cleveland fan and they are getting there
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jun 2014

The Logo on the teams uniforms for about 68 of the 72 games they've played this year is the traditional Block C that they used way, way back in the day.

Chief Wahoo is going to be phased out. Some people will bitch about it and claim that the PC crowds are running amock, but I think the team realizes that he needs to go, and I predict that he will.

Now, with that being said, I think it's disengunious to try to equate Chief Wahoo with a name that came from payments for the scalps of indians.

IMHO-Names like Braves, Seminoles, Blackhawks, Illini and Indians can and should be seen as honoring, remembering and respecting our national heritage.

Lose the idiotic stereotypical mascots, and I see know problem with those names.

We need to look at the origins and the intents when these teams were named.

If I were to find out that the Syracuse Orangemen were named to make fun of, or mock John Boehner, I'd have a problem with that too!

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Holy shit. Orrex Jun 2014 #1
Me too underpants Jun 2014 #5
That was my reaction, too. It's a flanking maneuver. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #8
Nicely played... giftedgirl77 Jun 2014 #2
I have no problem with this, but Paolo123 Jun 2014 #3
I'll bet you a sawbuck there are enterprising colleagues of mine thinking the msanthrope Jun 2014 #6
They are going after that also. progressoid Jun 2014 #7
You would think that would be an easy fix IronLionZion Jun 2014 #10
The name that the Washington football team has is much more hurtful & hateful than Chief Wahoo, catbyte Jun 2014 #29
Really? Paolo123 Jun 2014 #53
That "proud warrior" is also offensive, because it perpetuates the whole "noble savage" catbyte Jun 2014 #62
+1000 olddad56 Jun 2014 #73
Thanks Paolo123 Jun 2014 #94
That is actually not the origin of the term. whopis01 Jun 2014 #95
i'm sorry so many Americans still don't get it. annm4peace Jun 2014 #116
Sorry, no win. gussmith Jun 2014 #120
If you want to do abolish Chief Wahoo, send your letters / emails to Indians owner Larry Dolan Auggie Jun 2014 #42
I'm a Cleveland fan and they are getting there maxrandb Jun 2014 #81
I grew up in Cleveland and I endorse dumping Wahoo and changing the name Auggie Jun 2014 #88
I don't think anyone has a problem... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #97
Well, "Indians" sure hasn't brought them any luck ... Auggie Jun 2014 #101
Rec! progressoid Jun 2014 #4
Here's the order. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2014 #9
I'm on page 40ish....what a comprehensive takedown. One for the law books. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #12
Thanks for the link geomon666 Jun 2014 #14
At that point, the league would have to step in KamaAina Jun 2014 #45
money is a powerful motivator. yurbud Jun 2014 #80
Fantastic! Smart, very smart...just awesome. K&R Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #11
So will a flood of unofficial merchandise force them to choose a non-offensive name? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #13
They retain their trademark during appeal, if I'm reading it right. Iggo Jun 2014 #15
If the order holds up.... mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2014 #20
Supreme Court - Here we come packman Jun 2014 #16
Obviously, discretion will be exercised in applying this new precedent. BlueEye Jun 2014 #30
Sir, packman Jun 2014 #33
I suspect that the three ATJs know their stuff. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2014 #56
According to the OP ashling Jun 2014 #32
you're comparing this to "yellow pages". WTF CreekDog Jun 2014 #52
Give me a break packman Jun 2014 #61
Seriously? Scootaloo Jun 2014 #76
They should change their name to the Bullets. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #17
tee hee. kwassa Jun 2014 #23
Or the Senators packman Jun 2014 #34
or the Washington Bigots. olddad56 Jun 2014 #39
Washington Gridlocks Scootaloo Jun 2014 #77
Here's the name they should go for: The Washington Ospreys. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2014 #87
That is one kickass bird. MadrasT Jun 2014 #98
Love ospreys. secondvariety Jun 2014 #104
Or the Washington Corporatists. pangaia Jun 2014 #100
fantastic! the RW radio and fox PC cops will scream political correctness! all day certainot Jun 2014 #18
What about the copyrights on movies, books, songs, etc., with offensive content? Chuck Finley Jun 2014 #19
Big difference between a trademark and copyright. Coventina Jun 2014 #21
Both trademarks and copyrights are protections of intellectual property. Chuck Finley Jun 2014 #46
Because, as stated, different statutes onenote Jun 2014 #99
Each individual case must be filed on behalf of those offended. LanternWaste Jun 2014 #22
Actually, movie titles can't be copyrighted. Chuck Finley Jun 2014 #50
Unlikely. You have to actually watch a movie or read a book, voluntarily. arcane1 Jun 2014 #69
Bring the case, and it will judged on its own merits. LanternWaste Jun 2014 #74
Boom! The Executor strikes. sofa king Jun 2014 #24
LOL catbyte Jun 2014 #26
No, this is not a unilateral Obama move, or any Obama move. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #112
Awesome! catbyte Jun 2014 #25
spot on and bravo SummerSnow Jun 2014 #27
Awesome wryter2000 Jun 2014 #28
This might kill an major income source for Daniel Snyder .... kwassa Jun 2014 #31
Dan Snyder would be wasting his time to fight this in court Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #35
ironically, this actually means that anyone can use the redskins name. unblock Jun 2014 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #37
Changing the name of the Washington NFL team is long overdue... olddad56 Jun 2014 #38
Hip Hip swilton Jun 2014 #40
Licensing Issues bpj62 Jun 2014 #41
Not quite, and oddly enough, it was the same team KamaAina Jun 2014 #48
I stand corrected bpj62 Jun 2014 #63
I think the Charlotte Bobcats and NO Hornets are both changing their names next year. WhoWoodaKnew Jun 2014 #49
Charlotte and New ORleans bpj62 Jun 2014 #67
Locally connected names are always nice, but when the teams move-- eridani Jun 2014 #103
Isn't Utah the home of jazz? kwassa Jun 2014 #107
The "lakes" were the thousands of them in Minnesota eridani Jun 2014 #109
I know, I know ... kwassa Jun 2014 #110
NO already did, to the Pelicans KamaAina Jun 2014 #68
So an image designed by one "Native American" is okay when other Native Americans itsrobert Jun 2014 #54
Image on the Helmet bpj62 Jun 2014 #60
This should have happened long ago. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #43
yes yes yes riverwalker Jun 2014 #44
Maybe the team could claim to be named for potatoes. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #47
I think the Washington WinkyDinks have a good ring to it itsrobert Jun 2014 #55
I'm gonna take a lot of grief about this on here... WhoWoodaKnew Jun 2014 #51
maybe you don't care because it isn't slanderous to you or your heritage olddad56 Jun 2014 #58
You might feel differently if your group was almost exterminated for being "crackers" n/t arcane1 Jun 2014 #75
Do you really need this explained to you? You are part of the dominant racial class. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #85
There is nothing wrong with you. louielouie Jun 2014 #89
Nonsense. There is nothing unimportant about race relations. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #90
You are certainly entitled to your perspective. louielouie Jun 2014 #91
I'm entitled to being right as well. And I am right, in case you didn't understand that. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #93
What specifically leads you to the premise this is merely a distraction? LanternWaste Jun 2014 #92
... randys1 Jun 2014 #57
How is this different... Calista241 Jun 2014 #59
it still brings attention to the issue, and sooner or later the name will change. olddad56 Jun 2014 #72
A good question... Chan790 Jun 2014 #121
Atlanta Braves and the 'tomahawk chop" is racism insitutionalized. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #64
The tomahawk chop came to Atlanta by way of Tallahassee KamaAina Jun 2014 #70
Then the chop knows how to get back home? And the comical, cartoon racist logo, where was it born? Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #78
You must be thinking of the Cleveland Indians' Chief Wahoo KamaAina Jun 2014 #79
I stand corrected, though the chief mascot is the height of bigotry and racism. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #82
It is indeed. KamaAina Jun 2014 #84
Wow, I didn't see that coming! arcane1 Jun 2014 #65
The trolls on Raw Story MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #66
The WASHINGTON WARRIORS! They could try to keep the same warrior logo. vkkv Jun 2014 #71
If you really want to have a laugh maxrandb Jun 2014 #83
No thanks. I don't have any barf bags handy. yellowcanine Jun 2014 #86
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2014 #96
It's actually not a "landmark" decision. Keefer Jun 2014 #102
Interesting W T Sherman Jun 2014 #105
It will be interesting! Agschmid Jun 2014 #108
Florida State Calista241 Jun 2014 #122
I wonder if there is a tax advantage for Synder to have the trademark cancelled over SDjack Jun 2014 #106
Why? For Political Correctness? gussmith Jun 2014 #111
No, for following the law. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #114
Oh Well gussmith Jun 2014 #119
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #113
Wow Marrah_G Jun 2014 #115
Exactly!!! supercats Jun 2014 #117
they could change the name to the Washington Fillibusters RedRocco Jun 2014 #118
This is going to be litigated forever. Calista241 Jun 2014 #123
Yes, let's remove christx30 Jun 2014 #124
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