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bananas

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28. No - the rest of that article confirms what's in the OP.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:07 PM
Jun 2014

The part you quoted is mindless speculation by anonymous persons on reddit.

The article you linked to also quotes more informed sources:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/18/youtube-indie-labels-music-service

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But it's the Financial Times interview that gives the clearest indication of what YouTube is actually planning to do, through a mixture of direct quotes and paraphrased information.

The piece begins "YouTube is about to begin a mass cull of music videos by artists including Adele and the Arctic Monkeys" before the key paragraph:

"The Google-owned company will start blocking videos “in a matter of days” to ensure that all content on the new platform is governed by its new contractual terms, said Robert Kyncl, YouTube’s head of content and business operations."


It's this wording that has provoked some of the arguments over the last 24 hours: you could certainly read that paragraph as saying videos will only be blocked from "the new platform", but indie labels are claiming the threat is to block them from YouTube as a whole – both the new and old (or paid and free) parts of it.

What are those anonymous sources and industry experts saying, then? Billboard is a good place to start: it's well-connected with US music labels and YouTube alike.

"Acts like Adele, Arctic Monkeys and Vampire Weekend, who account for up to 10% of all the music for which YouTube typically has rights to feature, are likely to be pulled down as the world’s largest video service has been unable to reach an agreement with the some of the leading independent labels, including the Beggars Group.

The crux of the dispute is that YouTube and the labels are unable to agree on royalty terms the subscription service in addition to existing terms with its free service.

YouTube executives argue that they cannot offer music on the free service without it also being available on the paid service as this would disappoint its subscribers. The solution? To take down songs that can’t be available on both services."


That last paragraph is an important one: it's an answer to the sensible question being asked by several commenters on the Reddit thread about this story: why would YouTube pull free videos just because their labels weren't signed up to its premium service?

The Verge has also followed up, claiming that YouTube is "explicitly threatening to block artists from using the entire YouTube platform — free or paid — if they do not agree to the terms of the new streaming service" before quoting its own source:

"A source familiar with the situation has confirmed to The Verge that most of the details in the FT story were accurate. YouTube does not want to launch a paid service and then be forced to show some videos in ad-supported mode, or offer users the ability to take videos offline, but not be able to offer that for big names like Adele or Jack White.

It is going to begin blocking artists whose labels have not signed on to its new licensing terms in the countries where those deals apply starting within just a few days, although the paid service is not expected to roll out that soon."


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Google is nobody's friend. nt onehandle Jun 2014 #1
The more commercial they become Trajan Jun 2014 #2
Same for Comrade Eddie here. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #3
Me too. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #30
"catastrophic error of judgement", "bullying...from YouTube employees" bananas Jun 2014 #4
I see a new music website in our future... DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #5
That is no joke either. If you are a web developer looking for an overnight hit GoneFishin Jun 2014 #7
... Until net non-neutrality kills your delivery. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #17
Which is exactly what they want. They have theirs, now they are trying to pull up the ladder behind GoneFishin Jun 2014 #24
The internet was so much better before all of these companies 'merged' blackspade Jun 2014 #6
Imagine that. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #31
They've already flooded the site with ads and skew search results to commercial vids. freshwest Jun 2014 #8
Get Ad Block Plus and never look at another ad Rochester Jun 2014 #15
+1000 DeSwiss Jun 2014 #18
I have adblock. Doesn't stop embedded ads in videos or eliminate youtube's ad driven order of search freshwest Jun 2014 #27
Why can't people just give them the middle finger and quit them altogether? Young addiction. YOHABLO Jun 2014 #9
alternatives? ejpoeta Jun 2014 #21
For music, and music only? MY SPACE. People forget it still is out there...! nt MADem Jun 2014 #29
Time to move beyond YouTube, yes? blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #10
Time for YouTube to become another Myspace InfoWingerWatch Jun 2014 #11
^^This!^^ BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #13
Funnily enough, indie music is the one area where Myspace still has a presence nxylas Jun 2014 #16
YOu can't post an amateur video any more? McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #12
Doesn't say that. dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #19
Google is EVIL johnlucas Jun 2014 #14
No more CandyRat Records? IDemo Jun 2014 #20
Welcome to Google, your new masters. Nitram Jun 2014 #22
Hang on dkhbrit Jun 2014 #23
What are you talking about? alp227 Jun 2014 #25
Now the Guardian is acknowledging this story was poorly written. alp227 Jun 2014 #26
No - the rest of that article confirms what's in the OP. bananas Jun 2014 #28
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