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In reply to the discussion: Female genital mutilation exposed in Swedish class [View all]alp227
(33,301 posts)80. Jury voted 3-4 to leave that stupid post.
On Sat Jun 21, 2014, 05:31 PM you sent an alert on the following post:
Why the outrage?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=831074
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS
Nasty and insensitive "WHAT ABOUT MENZZZ???" deflection in thread about female genital mutilation. The basic fact is that female/male genital mutilation is hardly comparable. See this link for info. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/06/for-the-boys-with-boo-boos/
I'm tired of seeing all these "what about the men" comments on discussions of women's issues on freaking DU!! Sure some of you think "discuss, don't hide", but this post doesn't sound like anything worth reasoning with.
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Jun 21, 2014, 05:53 PM, and voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It's never important enough when it concerns "only women," is it? There's also an extreme ignorance on display as to the reality of FGM and how it's not equivalent to male circumcision; unless male circumcision includes removing the foreskin, chopping off the testes, then sewing the urinary meatus shut so that only a drop of urine can escape at a time. Imagine the shape your body is in when it can't excrete waste products. Yeah. That is only one of the problems reported by girls and women who have had FGM forced on them. Hide it.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see what's hide-worthy about this. Other people have addressed this in their responses. No, they are not "the same thing," but they are in the same league. I think the alerter is being a jerk. S/he even says the old "discuss, don't hide" bit. Yes, that's right, discuss, don't hide. If the post "doesn't sound like anything worth reasoning with," then don't bother discussing. So many authoritarians around here trying to make DU suck.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm hiding it because this is a stupid remark that indicates no knowledge of the subject, as well as stupidity by false equivalence. Don't post stupid stuff like this here.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Okay but why alert? Doesn't seem like a CS issue. Possibly MIRT if there are other indicators but I don't think boorish remark merits an insta-ban. If a troll there will be clearer indicators.
Thank you.
Why the outrage?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=831074
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS
Nasty and insensitive "WHAT ABOUT MENZZZ???" deflection in thread about female genital mutilation. The basic fact is that female/male genital mutilation is hardly comparable. See this link for info. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/06/for-the-boys-with-boo-boos/
I'm tired of seeing all these "what about the men" comments on discussions of women's issues on freaking DU!! Sure some of you think "discuss, don't hide", but this post doesn't sound like anything worth reasoning with.
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Jun 21, 2014, 05:53 PM, and voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It's never important enough when it concerns "only women," is it? There's also an extreme ignorance on display as to the reality of FGM and how it's not equivalent to male circumcision; unless male circumcision includes removing the foreskin, chopping off the testes, then sewing the urinary meatus shut so that only a drop of urine can escape at a time. Imagine the shape your body is in when it can't excrete waste products. Yeah. That is only one of the problems reported by girls and women who have had FGM forced on them. Hide it.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see what's hide-worthy about this. Other people have addressed this in their responses. No, they are not "the same thing," but they are in the same league. I think the alerter is being a jerk. S/he even says the old "discuss, don't hide" bit. Yes, that's right, discuss, don't hide. If the post "doesn't sound like anything worth reasoning with," then don't bother discussing. So many authoritarians around here trying to make DU suck.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm hiding it because this is a stupid remark that indicates no knowledge of the subject, as well as stupidity by false equivalence. Don't post stupid stuff like this here.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Okay but why alert? Doesn't seem like a CS issue. Possibly MIRT if there are other indicators but I don't think boorish remark merits an insta-ban. If a troll there will be clearer indicators.
Thank you.
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They don't specifically mention which country but apparently these are occurring when the girls go
newthinking
Jun 2014
#1
Many people really are nothing more than robots programmed to do what they do, so sad. Yes,
RKP5637
Jun 2014
#17
I am guessing for the same reason the bible/torah/geeta has not put an end to all evil?
La Lioness Priyanka
Jun 2014
#33
Eating pork, that particular onerous evil, predated Islan yet that behavior was halted.
snagglepuss
Jun 2014
#36
Disingenuous to say its in the bible since Christians threw out Jewish dietary laws.
snagglepuss
Jun 2014
#116
Most of the evil parts of religion are not by any means restricted to one faith.
nomorenomore08
Jun 2014
#96
If this custom predates Islam, then it was started by some earlier religion...
TheDebbieDee
Jun 2014
#87
From the story it would appear these are foreign students going to school in Sweden. nt
Fla Dem
Jun 2014
#29
Thank you for the additional detail. I don't know if it is, but in the US I would expect it to be a
RKP5637
Jun 2014
#45
It's not happening in Sweden. The girls go home for summer vacation to their...
Moonwalk
Jun 2014
#59
Thank you for the additional detail. It is just so horribly bizarre, I just can't imagine doing this
RKP5637
Jun 2014
#82
There is de facto censorship on the subject of immigrant crime in some European countries
DFW
Jun 2014
#15
Meanwhile in America, right wingers accuse media of "covering up" crimes committed by black people
alp227
Jun 2014
#73
I think Sweden will arrest & prosecute any guardians if that happened while they resided in Sweden.
Sunlei
Jun 2014
#21
I would certainly put it on par with murder/rape/utter ostracism of LGBT people.
nomorenomore08
Jun 2014
#93
Since 1999 it is also an offence under Swedish law if the procedure is performed in a different
elleng
Jun 2014
#37
It's the difference between losing your foreskin and having your penis sliced off altogether.
Mister Ed
Jun 2014
#98
Theres a HUGE difference, thats why. And its not "so called" hygienic improvement, either.
7962
Jun 2014
#122
I read a similar article in the Swedish daily press and it doesn't really say
Swede Atlanta
Jun 2014
#52
They're both worthy of "slamming," though not blanket condemnation, given that many good people
nomorenomore08
Jun 2014
#94
My aunt is from SK! Cant remember where though. Many stories of running during the war.
7962
Jun 2014
#103
The thing is more Muslims actually follow their holy book, therefore on average more fundies
snooper2
Jun 2014
#106
But many of the suicide bombers have been college educated? I agree with you, though.
7962
Jun 2014
#109