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101. And its starting to have an effect on the social systems there too.

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 07:07 AM

Jun 2014

As well as in other Nordic countries. People like to point at Norway, et al, and how good their system is; part Socialism part capitalistic. But there has been an influx of immigrants; many who do not contribute to those systems but use them, and its starting to weight it down.
Thats why the same things wont work here as well as they've worked over there.

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Female genital mutilation exposed in Swedish class [View all] 7962 Jun 2014 OP

They don't specifically mention which country but apparently these are occurring when the girls go newthinking Jun 2014 #1

Why, do they do this? It's horrible. What a bunch of sick people. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #3

Childism, sexism... littlemissmartypants Jun 2014 #4

And in Sweden, I guess I'm naive, but I though Sweden was above something RKP5637 Jun 2014 #6

Another "so called" religious littlemissmartypants Jun 2014 #9

Many people really are nothing more than robots programmed to do what they do, so sad. Yes, RKP5637 Jun 2014 #17

Tolerance Cartoonist Jun 2014 #20

You nailed it The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #64

actual this is not really religious. it predates islam. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #27

If it predates Islam why didn't the Koran put a stop to it? snagglepuss Jun 2014 #32

I am guessing for the same reason the bible/torah/geeta has not put an end to all evil? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #33

Eating pork, that particular onerous evil, predated Islan yet that behavior was halted. snagglepuss Jun 2014 #36

It was also halted in the Bible jmowreader Jun 2014 #70

Disingenuous to say its in the bible since Christians threw out Jewish dietary laws. snagglepuss Jun 2014 #116

Jewish people, however, have not jmowreader Jun 2014 #118

It does predate Islam, but the Koran gives its approval... Moonwalk Jun 2014 #60

It predates you, why don't you put a stop to it? n/t eggplant Jun 2014 #43

Who said it had anything to do with Islam? Cartoonist Jun 2014 #54

Most of the evil parts of religion are not by any means restricted to one faith. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #96

But Islam, the supposed final word of a supposed diety, to man didn't snagglepuss Jun 2014 #117

Patriarchy Cartoonist Jun 2014 #120

If this custom predates Islam, then it was started by some earlier religion... TheDebbieDee Jun 2014 #87

It isn't religious Scairp Jun 2014 #123

From the article the procedures are performed outside of Sweden. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #22

From the story it would appear these are foreign students going to school in Sweden. nt Fla Dem Jun 2014 #29

The chances that this is happening in Sweden is low. enlightenment Jun 2014 #39

Thank you for the additional detail. I don't know if it is, but in the US I would expect it to be a RKP5637 Jun 2014 #45

Like torturing and crippling little girls by binding and crushing their feet. tblue37 Jun 2014 #79

Exactly. "We" are only better than "them" in degree, not kind. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #97

+1000 whathehell Jun 2014 #83

They are, FGM is illegal in Sweden, they will jail the parents pediatricmedic Jun 2014 #55

Excellent!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #57

It's not happening in Sweden. The girls go home for summer vacation to their... Moonwalk Jun 2014 #59

Thanks for the clarification!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author Malone Jun 2014 #63

I would say this (probably) wasn't done inside Sweden Scairp Jun 2014 #74

Thank you for the additional detail. It is just so horribly bizarre, I just can't imagine doing this RKP5637 Jun 2014 #82

It's tribal tradition Warpy Jun 2014 #56

Some, maybe a lot of humans absolutely disgust me. Such creatures. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #58

religion can make people do very, very sick things Skittles Jun 2014 #69

This is cultural, almost without exception Scairp Jun 2014 #76

from keeping women covered up, to genital mutilation Skittles Jun 2014 #100

because not only are fundies stupid they are fucking assholes as well snooper2 Jun 2014 #105

Very true davidpdx Jun 2014 #11

It mentions typical age when it occurs which is between 4 and 14 yrs. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #24

"Vacation Cutting" littlemissmartypants Jun 2014 #2

i hope the people are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. barbtries Jun 2014 #5

A culture of oppression and violence littlemissmartypants Jun 2014 #7

yes, and a culture barbtries Jun 2014 #8

I can't think about the horrible littlemissmartypants Jun 2014 #12

they steal a big part of these girls' lives barbtries Jun 2014 #26

I think the parents get the red out Jun 2014 #112

As a man, I'm disgusted by this. nt 7962 Jun 2014 #115

Terrrible davidpdx Jun 2014 #10

The lack of information is frustrating Android3.14 Jun 2014 #13

That is a slightly better source davidpdx Jun 2014 #14

There is de facto censorship on the subject of immigrant crime in some European countries DFW Jun 2014 #15

Ok, that makes sense davidpdx Jun 2014 #16

You are quite correct. The Swedes themselves would be (and surely are) appalled DFW Jun 2014 #18

Its called Suicidal Political Correctness. Rhinodawg Jun 2014 #25

The symptoms are not fatal DFW Jun 2014 #41

You're absolutely right. n/t radicalliberal Jun 2014 #46

Free republic does this: christx30 Jun 2014 #42

Could be. I've never visited their site DFW Jun 2014 #44

We're getting to that point in this country. nt 7962 Jun 2014 #65

Meanwhile in America, right wingers accuse media of "covering up" crimes committed by black people alp227 Jun 2014 #73

This is so painful to read. Shame, shame, shame. Shrike47 Jun 2014 #19

I think Sweden will arrest & prosecute any guardians if that happened while they resided in Sweden. Sunlei Jun 2014 #21

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #23

You don't read much, do you? (eom) CanSocDem Jun 2014 #28

LOL tabasco Jun 2014 #34

Thanks. Rhinodawg Jun 2014 #35

Why should mental retardness be used as an insult? radicalliberal Jun 2014 #47

Thanks for saying that. Rhinodawg Jun 2014 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Jun 2014 #48

Have you been? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #50

Female genital mutilation may well be the very worst thing SheilaT Jun 2014 #30

I would certainly put it on par with murder/rape/utter ostracism of LGBT people. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #93

when is this heaven05 Jun 2014 #31

Since 1999 it is also an offence under Swedish law if the procedure is performed in a different elleng Jun 2014 #37

Why the outrage? A Round Tuit Jun 2014 #38

Ask a male who has had the procedure done, elleng Jun 2014 #40

Jury voted 3-4 to leave that stupid post. alp227 Jun 2014 #80

Thanks for the info, elleng Jun 2014 #81

Male circumcision should not be performed without the male's consent swimboy Jun 2014 #51

+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #91

That didn't take long... Ino Jun 2014 #68

Removing the foreskin is not equivalent. It is not done for the purpose pnwmom Jun 2014 #75

Removing the glans burrowowl Jun 2014 #84

+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #92

It's the difference between losing your foreskin and having your penis sliced off altogether. Mister Ed Jun 2014 #98

+1 Stargazer09 Jun 2014 #104

Bingo! NickB79 Jun 2014 #114

Theres a HUGE difference, thats why. And its not "so called" hygienic improvement, either. 7962 Jun 2014 #122

I read a similar article in the Swedish daily press and it doesn't really say Swede Atlanta Jun 2014 #52

Just amazing that people will do such a thing to their children. DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #53

Mustn't mention the, umm, culture or religion behind this. Psephos Jun 2014 #62

Xtians / Jews do it to their boys and Muslims to their girls. toby jo Jun 2014 #66

id imagine at some point iamthebandfanman Jun 2014 #71

Removing the foreskin is NOT equivalent to female genital mutilation. n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #77

Not equivalent at all, not even close Nevernose Jun 2014 #78

Thats a great way to put it. Some people will try to excuse anything. nt 7962 Jun 2014 #88

That you would compare leftynyc Jun 2014 #110

Ding ding ding. iandhr Jun 2014 #67

LOL the article tip toes and for the most part so do responses here. maced666 Jun 2014 #72

Yet slamming Christianity happens here all the time. Odd aint it? 7962 Jun 2014 #90

They're both worthy of "slamming," though not blanket condemnation, given that many good people nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #94

See DFW's post #15 for an explanation davidpdx Jun 2014 #99

And its starting to have an effect on the social systems there too. 7962 Jun 2014 #101

Frankly I'm shocked about the level of censorship in Sweden davidpdx Jun 2014 #102

My aunt is from SK! Cant remember where though. Many stories of running during the war. 7962 Jun 2014 #103

You should davidpdx Jun 2014 #107

The thing is more Muslims actually follow their holy book, therefore on average more fundies snooper2 Jun 2014 #106

But many of the suicide bombers have been college educated? I agree with you, though. 7962 Jun 2014 #109

"Politically" correct you mean? alp227 Jun 2014 #108

You've got that right get the red out Jun 2014 #113

125 million girls and women alive today have been subjected to FGM... TeeYiYi Jun 2014 #85

Ignorance .. what can one say? And the title is misleading .. these girls were out of the country. YOHABLO Jun 2014 #86

Only 4 to 8 years punishment??? seveneyes Jun 2014 #89

4 to 8 is a pretty harsh sentence by Scandinavian standards. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #95

They shouldn't allow the parents to take the girls out get the red out Jun 2014 #111

97% of females in Somalia have had their genitals mutilated. Quantess Jun 2014 #119

If you can stand it, do a google image search of FGM III Quantess Jun 2014 #121