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140. The murder rate for 2012 increased. No data yet for 2013.

Sat Jun 28, 2014, 07:12 PM

Jun 2014

Violent crime overall increased in 2012.

What were you saying about "continues to decline?" The murder rate is increasing.

Why don't you do your homework before you spout off falsities?

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/violent-crime

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Visa urged to to sever links with National Rifle Association [View all] SecularMotion Jun 2014 OP

Nice. Link to petition ---> onehandle Jun 2014 #1

Signed! But the site hasn't updated the number of signers since February Hekate Jun 2014 #115

Here is the petition link: RKP5637 Jun 2014 #2

Oh wow MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #3

"Defend Freedom With the NRA Credit Card" groundloop Jun 2014 #4

And Michigan State makes money when someone uses pipoman Jun 2014 #6

IMO it's NOT a "non-issue" groundloop Jun 2014 #11

The NRA can't prevent anything pipoman Jun 2014 #18

BARF........how about the legislation blocked in the Senate for background checks, etc.,..BARF. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #34

If you wish to attribute super powers to them whatever pipoman Jun 2014 #50

I think the NRA is in the hands of RWNJs.... Anansi1171 Jun 2014 #77

They advocate for the firearms industry. That's pretty conclusive. nt Hekate Jun 2014 #116

Why wouldn't the firearms industry pipoman Jun 2014 #118

Interesting thread -- reads like the whole NRA advocacy group showed up Hekate Jun 2014 #119

No advocacy. ...maybe truth would be more fittings pipoman Jun 2014 #121

They can't prevent anything? passiveporcupine Jun 2014 #81

Really? An NRA apologist? smh. The NRA pours money on people in Congress to make sure they vote Cha Jun 2014 #88

Yeah, and pipoman Jun 2014 #93

re: "...it is easier to just blame a boogie man than understand the issue for what it is..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #103

How is this a non-issue? MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #13

Help yourself. ..I don't bring politics to work with me. .. pipoman Jun 2014 #15

Sure... MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #30

Because one can get a visa card supporting everything from local school athletic pipoman Jun 2014 #51

I do not see how that MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #52

So are you going to boycott them for every card they issue for pipoman Jun 2014 #56

Well then, I'm guessing that you'll never accept Visa again IronGate Jun 2014 #42

Thanks. MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #44

good way to loose Niceguy1 Jun 2014 #102

I suspect once his business started tumble, IronGate Jun 2014 #104

Frankly if i came into a store and wanted to buy something.. EX500rider Jun 2014 #107

well my visa card has nothing to do with the NRA, Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #109

Barf...... Beacool Jun 2014 #7

*edit* replied to the wrong person. MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #12

As long as they don't issue to any controversial pipoman Jun 2014 #5

Controversial civil liberty groups do not have instruments of death as their focus, do they? Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #10

All civil liberties reduce safety. .. pipoman Jun 2014 #19

You do not "get" it at all. There is a balance, modifying one amendment is not hate of the other. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #21

Well then get to work on that. .. pipoman Jun 2014 #94

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #86

You went full Derp. MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #14

Full Metal Derp frylock Jun 2014 #39

He Derped so hard MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #40

NRA Visa - It's everywhere you don't want to be Crowquette Jun 2014 #8

America is more of a Killing Field than Cambodia was. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #9

That is a fucking stupid comment hack89 Jun 2014 #16

30 gun deaths a day for the last 30 years.........adds up and up and up. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #17

Did you even read your own link? hack89 Jun 2014 #20

So America is no more than a mini genocide, got it? Still with the insults, really pathetic. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #23

It does not meet any accepted definition of genocide. hack89 Jun 2014 #26

90/ day, 30,000 a year, forever and ever, amen, is my standard. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #29

So if the rate continues to decline, it will no longer be genocide? hack89 Jun 2014 #31

Hack, what do you call it? toby jo Jun 2014 #46

Since two thirds of the deaths are sucides, I call it a healthcare crisis hack89 Jun 2014 #47

The murder rate for 2012 increased. No data yet for 2013. tabasco Jun 2014 #140

So a small increase after cutting the rate in half hack89 Jun 2014 #142

The rate in violent crime was not cut in half. tabasco Jun 2014 #143

Our murder and manslaughter rate is half of what it was hack89 Jun 2014 #144

The number you pulled out of a keyboard is incorrect. former9thward Jun 2014 #22

What an ignorant way to make an argument, so for you American gundeaths are at good levels? Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #25

LOL former9thward Jun 2014 #36

Fat people choose to eat, shot people not so much choose to get shot...see the difference? Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #37

You have been throwing in the suicide figures. former9thward Jun 2014 #43

They have tried every way possible to defend something indefensible. Their rage doesn't assist them. Judi Lynn Jun 2014 #75

I appreciate yours, lot of misinformed opinion out there. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #76

So you think gun violence in America is genocide? hack89 Jun 2014 #82

Do you believe suicide is tantamount to genocide? IronGate Jun 2014 #105

Compared to the other leading causes of death they barely register.. EX500rider Jun 2014 #55

Those are natural diseases, not brains blown out....really, that is pathetic. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #57

So one who dies violently by a firearm IronGate Jun 2014 #58

120,000 a year from accidents is not a disease. EX500rider Jun 2014 #62

Since all people die, why bother with trying to delay death, THAT is your logic? Please proceed. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #64

No my logic was people kill other people and have done so way before guns.. EX500rider Jun 2014 #65

you might review the definition of "genocidal" pipoman Jun 2014 #24

American gun genocide,yes it is, and my 30/day was in error, more like 90 a day. Apologies. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #27

So sucide is a genocidal act? Didn't know that. nt hack89 Jun 2014 #32

Not surprised. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #33

So you really think sucide is a genocidal act? Wow. nt hack89 Jun 2014 #35

I am not surprised either since NOBODY knows that since it's not true.. n/t EX500rider Jun 2014 #63

Perhaps you can explain how someone choosing to take their own life is genocidal? IronGate Jun 2014 #66

When it happens 10,000 times a year, every year? Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #67

That's not genocide, that's individuals choosing to end their existence on earth. IronGate Jun 2014 #68

So genocide is ongoing in many countries as we speak? Nt hack89 Jun 2014 #84

Apparently "genocide" is happening in almost EVERY country....who knew? EX500rider Jun 2014 #87

Genocide ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #41

I'm thinking that's worse, in a way. toby jo Jun 2014 #45

Well, we do have quasi-state sanctioned violence, ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #48

The alternatives of a completely safe society are entirely unacceptable. .. pipoman Jun 2014 #95

All those suffering Europeans, Canadians and Japanese? BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #133

Yeah, the freedom of Americans pipoman Jun 2014 #141

Visa doesn't issue the card. That would be First National Bank of Omaha. ET Awful Jun 2014 #28

That would be great! gopiscrap Jun 2014 #38

You'd think companies would learn. JoeyT Jun 2014 #49

Visa knows that most Americans don't care hack89 Jun 2014 #53

Visa probably doesn't care about an online, worthless petition with a few thousand signatures. IronGate Jun 2014 #54

Thanks for signing the petition! SecularMotion Jun 2014 #59

Except I didn't, and I wouldn't. IronGate Jun 2014 #60

I wasn't going to sign the petition, but you convinced me to. Thank you. olddad56 Jun 2014 #78

Good for you, it's still meaningless. IronGate Jun 2014 #85

BTW, where did you get the idea I signed this worthless petition? IronGate Jun 2014 #61

Yes, keep the faith. Downer posters should be ignored, they got really fragile egos it seems. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #69

Not downer posters or fragile egos. IronGate Jun 2014 #70

Does your Captain know you are posting more than a day in the life here, because that would be more Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #71

I'm using up all my vacation and comp time, which gave me appox. 2 1/2 months off. IronGate Jun 2014 #72

The point is to collect many more, and yes, they have a department dedicated to public relations, Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #73

No, no, you didn't offend me at all, IronGate Jun 2014 #74

I think it's unlikely that VISA will do anything, but I doubt it would harm them petronius Jun 2014 #79

Have never heard of this organization. Thanks for mentioning it. Sounds great. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2014 #80

Yeah, it's a pretty clever idea. I don't know what their fees are like, but it petronius Jun 2014 #83

There are a lot of people who'd leap to do business with a company they perceive as ethical. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2014 #91

I imagine that's a lot more common than people who petronius Jun 2014 #111

74 school shootings in the 18 months since the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre... freshwest Jun 2014 #89

School mass-murders since Sandy Hook: -0- Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #90

Your reply to the faces of dead children is to defend your guns? BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #92

Actually, it was a statement of fact. Here's another: Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #120

Trying to get us to back off being outraged over murdered children? Paladin Jun 2014 #123

Um, no. Capitalizing on the deaths of others to work up Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #125

only some childrens deaths cause such Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #127

And you know what? BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #132

+100 billh58 Jun 2014 #135

That is why we must marginalize them and push for gun regulation which the majority wants BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #137

I agree with you completely, and billh58 Jun 2014 #138

I usually just agree with yours and so there's no need to jump in BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #139

And there are already many laws on the books Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #136

Doubling down? BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #124

I think your world revolves around some notion of NRA talking points. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #126

I'm glad we're having this exchange so people can see how much compassion pro gun people have BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #129

How cheap "compassion" sounds from those who can't tell Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #130

"Some kids' deaths are more tragic than others." BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #131

Wow, indeed. You should study the mirror, and take a course Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #134

Ah, I see we're expected to use the term "school shooting" as defined by the NRA? Ah, no. myrna minx Jun 2014 #96

So if a shooting happens a night after school hours in a school parking lot hack89 Jun 2014 #97

After hours in a school parking lot, when myrna minx Jun 2014 #98

"When students or teachers are in danger" hack89 Jun 2014 #100

I think shootings at a school are school shootings. myrna minx Jun 2014 #101

Of course you do hack89 Jun 2014 #106

I happen to think gun violence at schools is unacceptable. myrna minx Jun 2014 #108

also rope violence Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #110

I'm rather sure most folks understand the difference between a hanging and a shooting. myrna minx Jun 2014 #112

both were suicides Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #113

A hanging isn't a shooting. Ergo, one death is a hanging and one is a shooting. myrna minx Jun 2014 #114

You are not paying attention hack89 Jun 2014 #117

Actually, the expression "mass murder" comes from the FBI, Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #122

Excellent! In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #99

Visa: It's everywhere you want to shoot somebody Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #128