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66. Self-defense isn't a matter of the person deserving to die or not.

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:32 PM

Jun 2014

But if someone is chucking bricks at your head, you have my blessing to shoot them.

You know what could have prevented this entire situation?

Not throwing bricks at heavily armed men.

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Bodies of Three Missing Israeli Teens Found Near Hebron, Source Says [View all] Bosonic Jun 2014 OP

I'm so sorry to hear the news. Beacool Jun 2014 #1

I sure the teens were a big threat to the "palestinians" 7962 Jun 2014 #2

I'm sure the 240 people rounded up as collective punishment by the "israelis" were a big threat, too Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #4

Yeah, the Israelis killed 'em all, right? 7962 Jun 2014 #5

No only 6 during Brothers Keeper were outright shot oh and 2 elderly Palestinians who dropped dead azurnoir Jun 2014 #9

But, they don't count. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #11

I am curious of whether you are native American question everything Jun 2014 #25

Decency? Given Israel's behavior of late? ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #36

Which would not have happened if the teens hadnt been kidnapped. 7962 Jun 2014 #15

"Case close" ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #17

I dont need to argue; the FACTS are what they are. Peace is there for those who want it. 7962 Jul 2014 #102

Or Israel could rename MyNameGoesHere Jun 2014 #18

Curious of what you know about the Warsaw Ghetto question everything Jun 2014 #27

Ah, even the slightest bit of reality translates ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #38

but that's not even close to reality. cali Jun 2014 #51

Educate yourself a bit MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #41

Tell us about what became of the Moroccan Quarter mere days after Israels occupation of E Jerusalem azurnoir Jun 2014 #52

Sure MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #53

Israel razed the Moroccan Quarter of E Jerusalem 3 days after occupying E Jerusalem azurnoir Jun 2014 #55

You might want to read your own link. MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #56

I posted the relevant part Israel razed the Moroccan Quarter 3 days post occupying EJ azurnoir Jun 2014 #58

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #70

are you calling me a Jew hater? yes or no and if its no then what relevence did that have? azurnoir Jun 2014 #71

Careful, FACTS are too much for some folks. nt 7962 Jul 2014 #100

You make too much sense! A lot of people here dont like that! Spouting facts and such! 7962 Jul 2014 #101

100% agreement leftynyc Jun 2014 #21

No it's just that some of us believe 2 wrongs do not make a right azurnoir Jun 2014 #31

It would have been nice to see leftynyc Jun 2014 #34

because some of us find propaganda campaigns targeting very young children (under 10 yrs) azurnoir Jun 2014 #37

So why didn't I see you loudly leftynyc Jun 2014 #39

I just told you why, I could ask azurnoir Jun 2014 #40

Not sure I understand MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #43

I see what you did there. stranger81 Jun 2014 #79

The 2 kids gunned down in Betunia that CNN caught was prior to the kidnappings azurnoir Jun 2014 #29

At least one of them attacked security forces with bricks if I recall Kurska Jun 2014 #59

ah ya and if that really happened I've heard all kinds of CT on this azurnoir Jun 2014 #60

If you don't want to be shot Kurska Jun 2014 #61

so then you feel a death sentence for Palestinian kids who throw stuff at IDF is justified? azurnoir Jun 2014 #62

It wasn't "stuff" it was a brick. Kurska Jun 2014 #63

a picture of brick thanks but once again do you feel this kid deserved to die? n/t azurnoir Jun 2014 #65

Self-defense isn't a matter of the person deserving to die or not. Kurska Jun 2014 #66

The only other source for the brick claim is the same one that claimed Palestinians shot the kids azurnoir Jun 2014 #81

Middle east not safe PHemens Jul 2014 #105

Agreed King_David Jun 2014 #47

Its a vicious circle Marrah_G Jun 2014 #68

"I doubt we will see an end to it in our lifetime. Neither side is willing to stop." nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #84

where did you go? we were just getting started! snooper2 Jun 2014 #74

Sure, why not? Use any opportunity, any tragedy to spout about the "poor Palestinians." question everything Jun 2014 #23

the 2 kids shot in Betunia were also shot in cold blood it seems azurnoir Jun 2014 #30

I seriously doubt the pigs who murdered these kids care at all geek tragedy Jun 2014 #6

Good point. They COULD stop the whole situation by doing so. But you're right, they wont. 7962 Jun 2014 #13

And poor little Israel is blameless, right? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #16

Can't you leave your Israel hating aside for one day? question everything Jun 2014 #24

That's asking too much of some people leftynyc Jun 2014 #35

Well, again, if they'd quit calling for Israel's destruction none of this would happen 7962 Jul 2014 #99

well, not the whole situation, but certainly they can avoid geek tragedy Jun 2014 #28

Correct, they don't MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #42

Your comment is depraved. tabasco Jul 2014 #106

And the unarmed Palestinian kids murdered by the IDF were just terrorists without weapons, right? Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #32

I guess indiscriminate collective blame is okay when applied to *some* ethnic groups... nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #85

Sure seems that way. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #86

It's just as wrong when applied to Israelis *or* Palestinians. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #88

Yes it is. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #89

Dehumanization of "the enemy" is one of the most shameful human qualities. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #91

Especially when it becomes all encompassing. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #92

Very sad. Rhinodawg Jun 2014 #3

Two hard things to do, that shouldn't be. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2014 #7

Not good news for anyone.. nt Stuart G Jun 2014 #8

where they were found was very close to the spot they were hitchhiking from? Sunlei Jun 2014 #10

They were killed almost immediately starroute Jun 2014 #19

thanks for the link, that story has a lot of detail. Sunlei Jun 2014 #22

I realize it's a quote - but I personally dislike using "executed" when describing a murder. 24601 Jun 2014 #57

My heart goes out to the parents of these boys azurnoir Jun 2014 #12

I am very sad and also disappointed to hear of this. meti57b Jun 2014 #14

+ 1000 Rhinodawg Jun 2014 #20

+10 840high Jun 2014 #72

Very sad lunatica Jun 2014 #26

Israel will hit Hamas hard..like it or not KinMd Jun 2014 #33

Which is why I have doubts that Hamas is involved. Just what would they Purveyor Jun 2014 #44

Looking for logic in all the wrong places MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #46

I do not think the fact that Hamas did this is in doubt.nt King_David Jun 2014 #48

I'll wait for some 'real' evidence, thank you. eom Purveyor Jun 2014 #49

There's a chance it was another group ? King_David Jun 2014 #50

Freemasons. (j/k) MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #54

We all know who they think it is. Kurska Jun 2014 #64

Oh , give it time... King_David Jun 2014 #69

Two hours and four minutes. Fozzledick Jun 2014 #76

Yes but I'm sure he forgot the sarcasm thingy King_David Jun 2014 #77

Mossad? ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Kurska Jun 2014 #78

Really what would that be and who thinks it? do you have the guts (your quote) to say it? azurnoir Jul 2014 #82

What a great idea, I should totally call out other Duers. Kurska Jul 2014 #83

ah you self deleted the comment n/t azurnoir Jul 2014 #90

That was from awhile ago, did you even read it? n/t Kurska Jul 2014 #93

actually I was wrong you left the offensive comment I replied to azurnoir Jul 2014 #94

"Offensive comment" Huh? Kurska Jul 2014 #95

well you cast aspersions at DUers and refuse to back them up that's why azurnoir Jul 2014 #96

I think my aspersions were completely justified, given someone did exactly what I said Kurska Jul 2014 #97

very sad JI7 Jun 2014 #45

Very sad Marrah_G Jun 2014 #67

One of those kids is American. The FBI is involved. applegrove Jun 2014 #73

Still kind of early to tell exactly who was behind it fujiyama Jun 2014 #80

Awful, disgusting, senseless. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #87

lots of teens get gunned down in the good ole usa and nary a ripple--just saying dembotoz Jul 2014 #98

they weren't gunned down. they were kidnapped and executed. cali Jul 2014 #104

Previously unknown jihadis are claiming responsibility for both kidnappings and killings. dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #103