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freshwest

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25. Human life is not more important to the Bundies than their profits. Consider that for a moment.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 04:19 PM
Jul 2014

No one EVER advocated killing the Bundies for illegal grazing. But their followers threatened to kill to keep on doing it. The lives of all concerned are worth saving, not just the lives of the Bundies and their followers, one of whom did kill two LEOs in Las Vegas. The Bundies are well armed, they aren't victims.

Force is not always lethal. But the threat of killing people over cattle grazing is okay to the Bundies and their militia pals. That distinction needs to be made and shouldn't be ignored.

Also the right of others in the area stolen by the Bundy gang to live their lives in peace, were abridged, and law was designed to protect them.

Equality of rights is not only for the wealthy, landowners or those who are well armed and threatening to kill others. Thus, some force was needed to stop them doing that, but the BLM was pulled off and the local sheriff may have been bought off or too frightened to act.

Two examples of how local authorities did not act to protect the liberties of less influential persons and their children:

Gay couple w/ 4 kids bullied in Arizona for months, kids threatened with gun

http://www.examiner.com/article/gay-couple-w-4-kids-bullied-arizona-for-months-kids-threatened-with-gun

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113717029

Gay Gilbert Couple terrorized, Police says it is their fault for being gay

http://archive.azcentral.com/video/1662294353001

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113714688

Note the comments on thread from the locals in the know:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113714688#post6

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113714688#post15

We don't know why the sheriff said he was going to help the BLM carry out their lawful acts, then left them hanging. It may be they'll never enforce the law, and let the militias hold the area, although locals asked their elected representative to free them of armed roadblocks.

Some places are corrupted by religion and money. How many more miles of territory will be under their thumb in the years to come in the USA?

RWers want to divide the nation into easily ruled oligarchic holdings. Generations to come may forget laws about equality and civil rights and let armed gunmen tell them what to do. History does not always have a happy ending and there is no one coming to save us from our own apathy.

The Civil Rights era did not come without force being applied by government. That was about people and a number of federal troops lost their lives in the shootout with those willing to shoot federal authorities to maintain their powers over blacks.

No one is unaware of who is really being threatened. This is not about wildlife being more important than human life. It is about the power of federal law required to put people like the Bundies under the rule of law, not letting wannabe oligarchs get their way unfairly. It's not about cattle.



JMHO. YMMV.

-------------We're waiting ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hoppy Jul 2014 #1
Per the article it's a cluster among those in power. herding cats Jul 2014 #2
. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #7
perfect! MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #15
What's the rush? NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #14
I agree with your title.... JohnnyRingo Jul 2014 #18
That pursuing "aggressively through the legal system," only applies to those who respect the law. freshwest Jul 2014 #3
I think you're right. C Moon Jul 2014 #8
In my opinion, ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #24
Human life is not more important to the Bundies than their profits. Consider that for a moment. freshwest Jul 2014 #25
I don't think this compares to what was happening during the civil rights fights. ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #26
And so, it will be all the more satisfying when they're picked up. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2014 #29
Think Bundy's fans come back? sakabatou Jul 2014 #4
Well, one of his fans, Jared Miller won't be coming back... Just sayin' freshwest Jul 2014 #9
It will be sweet day of justice when it does. Thanks herding cats! Cha Jul 2014 #5
we're all waiting........ bbgrunt Jul 2014 #6
Yeah, popcorn sales are down in Nevada. It was great for a while: freshwest Jul 2014 #10
.................. trusty elf Jul 2014 #11
I'm sure we have the Bundy ranch under surveillance from drones and satellite........ Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #12
They authorities are way-the-hell late on this. Paladin Jul 2014 #13
I'll have to take a contrarian view. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #16
I agree. tecelote Jul 2014 #20
I agree. nt ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #23
What are you talking about? former9thward Jul 2014 #31
There wouldn't Be fredamae Jul 2014 #17
Bundy Is A Criminal Thug Stainless Jul 2014 #19
Two cops in Nevada already dead because arrests were not made. SansACause Jul 2014 #21
Jon Stewart did a great piece on this: Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #22
come on........ Takket Jul 2014 #27
so maybe the BLM will give their buddie another ticket he can ignore for 20 years? Sunlei Jul 2014 #28
If he was Black or Native American, he would've been held accountable a long time ago. Ash_F Jul 2014 #30
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