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happyslug

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48. "Genocide" may be to harsh a word, but it is clear Israel wants these people gone..
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 04:02 AM
Jul 2014

Thus the position that these "Arabs" should be resettled in other Arab Countries, instead of the country they came from. The general international rule as to refugees, is they are to return to the country they came from when it is safe to do so. Furthermore it is the responsibility of that country to move them back and to care for such refugees till they can move back.

Israel has refused to accept either rule, they dare NOT say that publicly for that would be in violation of the UN Charter, but the US has supported Israel in they refusal to take these refugees back.

Now, the Refugees have constantly said they want to return to Palestine. Israel says it is NOT Palestine, but Israel is the legally accepted successor to Palestine and as such where these refugees should be returned to. Israel is also the ONLY Country these refugees can be sent back to. Thus unless Israel accepts them back they will die in these refugee camps. That appears to be want Israel prefers rather then the have them back. In cases where Israel has been in a position to have others kill off such refugees, that has occurred (remember Lebanon in the early 1980s?). Israel wants these refugees gone, but also does NOT want to get the blame for killing them. Thus they are left to fester and Israel slowly builds a case to destroy these camps. To many eyes are on Israel right now for Israel to do anything drastic, but the same could be said of Hitler in 1939. The Holocaust only started in 1942, after the US entered the war against Germany and with that declaration of war, Hitler no longer had any reason NOT to kill off the Jews. The same fore Israel, if the situation arrives where no one would punish Israel for destroying those camps, Israel will. Right now such a situation is not occurring, but Israel, like Nazi Germany in the 1930s, is building up an internal case for such a mass killing. Thus it is only international pressure that prevents a Palestinian holocausts. Whenever that pressure can no longer be applied, then this may get a mass killing, but not before. On the other hand if the US gets to involved in something else, then all bets are off.

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Nothing restores peace and quiet like bombing crowded neighborhoods! /nt Ash_F Jul 2014 #1
I expected no less from the biblically inspired Netanyahu. delrem Jul 2014 #2
genocide is their goal mwrguy Jul 2014 #3
mwrguy, you have a picture of Obama, how do you feel about him supporting ellenrr Jul 2014 #4
+1 newfie11 Jul 2014 #5
If they're goal is "genocide", they're awful at it. 1000 strikes and 100 dead? Shouldnt it be 100K? 7962 Jul 2014 #6
But..but..but... It's just so much more satisfying COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #7
+1 I doubt any other military could have as few casualties with as many airstrikes. EX500rider Jul 2014 #9
True, Sir: Argument From Hyperbole Has Pitfalls The Magistrate Jul 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #16
"Genocide" may be to harsh a word, but it is clear Israel wants these people gone.. happyslug Jul 2014 #48
"genocide is their goal" IronGate Jul 2014 #10
What about the people who voted for Hamas? Them, too? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #12
If I said about Likud what you said about Hamas, I would probably get a hidden post. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #13
Well, I wouldn't vote to hide it, IronGate Jul 2014 #14
You have not read much about the Holocaust have you? happyslug Jul 2014 #50
Maybe the Palestinians christx30 Jul 2014 #8
Good answer, except if they do that, Hamas will kill them & probably their family. 7962 Jul 2014 #15
Their goals are to eliminate Palastinians. Nothing More. Nothing Less. peoli Jul 2014 #17
If that was Israel's goal, IronGate Jul 2014 #18
Because they are taking their sweet time means they are not doing it? Uh, Ok. peoli Jul 2014 #21
Uh, yeah, ok. IronGate Jul 2014 #23
If Isreal wanted peace it would have happened long ago. peoli Jul 2014 #25
Yeah, right, sure. IronGate Jul 2014 #26
Isreal creates more terrorists than it kills. peoli Jul 2014 #27
Suuuure it has. IronGate Jul 2014 #28
That is a projection and propaganda, which seems to be your M.O. today. peoli Jul 2014 #29
Projection and propaganda are often the truth. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author peoli Jul 2014 #31
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #32
Insults and name calling are usually the last resort of one who has lost the debate. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #33
You clearly don't know your history or anything about this conflict cpwm17 Jul 2014 #49
If So, Sir, They Are Doing a Damn Poor Job Of It The Magistrate Jul 2014 #19
You are right, it is not quite the same thing as eliminating Palestinians.... peoli Jul 2014 #24
Nor Does It Really Amount To That, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #34
I'm not arguing with you at all. peoli Jul 2014 #35
That Would Have The Virtue Of Some Contact With Reality, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #20
It Has Been Around For A While, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #22
+1 broiles Jul 2014 #37
A picture is worth a thousand words. HeiressofBickworth Jul 2014 #44
Thanks for this post. Bigmack Jul 2014 #45
Thanks peoli, bookmarking this, very informative nolabels Jul 2014 #51
You could look at THIS map too, and see Israel is a lot SMALLER than it was long before '47 7962 Jul 2014 #52
'When Our Goals Are Realized' is that like "the finale solution" awake Jul 2014 #38
it is not an equal fight or even close. yurbud Jul 2014 #40
Good point it is not an equal fight but that does not matter to the dead civilians awake Jul 2014 #41
correct. But it does matter in terms of being an "honest broker" which our gov't is not yurbud Jul 2014 #42
Well said awake Jul 2014 #43
NOPE Bigmack Jul 2014 #46
I thought he was going to slip and say their territorial goals. yurbud Jul 2014 #39
they are bullies and whiners olddad56 Jul 2014 #47
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