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antigone382

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33. All other points aside, if flavenoids are beneficial, they are beneficial.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:35 PM
Jul 2014

I am not stating that there is rock solid evidence that flavenoids are beneficial. But one of the linked articles seems to have found compelling evidence of such, and I am referring to the nature of your refutation of that article. Your implication seems to be that since the benefit being discussed is cardiovascular risk rather than cancer, the article is outside the subject area of this discussion. However that makes no sense; flavenoids are one of the compounds mentioned in the original news article. No claim is made as to the nature of the health benefit that they may provide.

In your first post (I believe), *you* referenced a link to antioxidant substances and cancer benefits--or rather the lack thereof, but that does not preclude other health benefits, nor does it constrain the ability of others to point out evidence for those benefits. As such, I'm not sure why you added to your otherwise seemingly logical illumination of the above studies' limitations, the irrelevant point that one of the studies referenced addressed cardiovascular risk rather than cancer risk. No one asserted that effects on cancer risks were the only effects being discussed, and as I recall cardiovascular problems cause more deaths than cancers do. If flavenoids can be shown to have a positive effect on cardiovascular risk, and if flavenoids are more prevalent in certain organic foods, then there public health case to be made for their consumption.

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Now demonstrate that increasing your "anti-oxidant" intake is a good idea. knightmaar Jul 2014 #1
First of all, this is about food, not supplements. nt bananas Jul 2014 #3
Kind of a reach there Z_California Jul 2014 #4
The statement "More nutritional antioxidants, far fewer toxic pesticides ..." knightmaar Jul 2014 #8
Eating =/= supplements n/t FreeState Jul 2014 #14
Okay ... now we just need someone to provide the studies that show anti-oxidants are good for you knightmaar Jul 2014 #17
Take your pic FreeState Jul 2014 #20
! DeSwiss Jul 2014 #23
"Dietary history method" knightmaar Jul 2014 #28
All other points aside, if flavenoids are beneficial, they are beneficial. antigone382 Jul 2014 #33
3rd paragraph. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #2
Exactly. cyberswede Jul 2014 #7
Treating farmworkers and animals with kindness!? That's gotta be "woo!" villager Jul 2014 #12
especially farmworkers. Where is the science on that you tree-hugging hippy? Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #13
We eat organic mainly to avoid the poisons and additives. rickford66 Jul 2014 #5
Organic usually does taste better. Sweet potatoes, Red and Yellow peppers come to mind. zonkers Jul 2014 #19
I believe nutrition follows taste - hedgehog Jul 2014 #25
If someone could approximate the difference in price on average between the two percentage wise? Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author wisechoice Jul 2014 #9
I don't eat organic much because it's not in the budget tabbycat31 Jul 2014 #22
They needed a study to figure that out? olddad56 Jul 2014 #10
but gmo is the real food wisechoice Jul 2014 #11
"Some one already wrote an article that organics don't offer any benefits over conventional food." Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #30
I don't know about people cosmicone Jul 2014 #15
K&R NealK Jul 2014 #16
K&R nt Zorra Jul 2014 #18
Yeah did they heaven05 Jul 2014 #21
Yes, it is a problem that a lot of people cannot afford organic food. djean111 Jul 2014 #27
true it's healthier, OP is correct heaven05 Jul 2014 #29
I suspect we agree on principal. But the OP is not "touting" organic food, the OP djean111 Jul 2014 #31
true heaven05 Jul 2014 #32
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #24
+++ marions ghost Jul 2014 #26
Of course it is.. it only makes sense because it's REAL. thanks bananas. Been doing it Cha Jul 2014 #34
Strange how the article doesn't mention organics had less protein. mathematic Jul 2014 #35
What? No added melamine to boost the apparent protein content? Nihil Jul 2014 #38
Well good cuz I spend plenty at Whole Paycheck flamingdem Jul 2014 #36
Funny thing... Archae Jul 2014 #37
Is it a coincidence that this comes out concurrently with my local supermarket ditching it's organic Hugin Jul 2014 #39
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