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JackRiddler

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8. Don't pretend to misunderstand the obvious.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:18 PM

Jul 2014

Ukraine military has its own BuKs, Russian made but purchased from Russia. At least one of these was seized by the Donetsk militias. Thus Kiev and Donetsk forces both have BuKs. This did not require Russia to supply BuKs to anyone (although they did SELL the BuKs to the prior Kiev governments). So there is no evidentiary basis for the assertion that Russia directly supplied BuKs to Donetsk.

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Russian government edits Wikipedia on flight MH17 [View all] Bosonic Jul 2014 OP

And thus the war moves to cyberspace. n/t eggplant Jul 2014 #1

Well technically I suppose they did supply them. dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #2

Of course it wasn't the Ukrainian government geek tragedy Jul 2014 #5

Don't pretend to misunderstand the obvious. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #8

That's what the Russian Ministry of Defense said. Igel Jul 2014 #9

At present nobody knows exactly what happened - there are suspicions only. dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #17

Suuuure. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #18

i thought you were lecturing us not to jump to conclusions when separatists were suspected CreekDog Jul 2014 #14

Gotta love "the Russian government", don't you? And besides, Putin is dreamy. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #3

Hmmmm, interesting maddezmom Jul 2014 #4

What's that Bible verse? "The wicked flee where no man pursueth"? Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #6

Right-wing Telegraph full of bullshit. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #7

It's not a massive deal in and of itself Bosonic Jul 2014 #10

It would depend, honestly. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #11

according to Wikipedia, there are about 1000 "data points" on the USofA reorg Jul 2014 #13

Well that's bad as well then Bosonic Jul 2014 #15

What it boils down to here... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #19

Leave Putin, the fucking liar, Alone! From Huff Post.. Cha Jul 2014 #12

OMG I just stumbled upon this in a series of OPs. Thanks, Cha. freshwest Mar 2015 #20

Russias propaganda Putin-TV reported the plane was a military plane a couple mins after they shot it Sunlei Jul 2014 #16