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Billy Budd

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23. They knew the Rebels had weapons ....I think Kiev hoped for a shoot down

Reply to IronGate (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:15 PM

Jul 2014

KIEV—Ukraine intelligence officials said they knew three days before the downing of Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -11.11% Flight 17 that rebels in the east of the country possessed sophisticated air-defense systems capable of felling a jetliner at altitudes in excess of where the Boeing BA +1.40% 777 was flying.

The disclosure deepens the mystery of why Ukrainian aviation officials failed to entirely close off the airspace in the Donetsk region, where the jet was flying went it was shot down, killing all 298 people on board.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-knew-of-separatists-air-defense-capabilities-say-officials-1405781508

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UPDATED ~ Kerry: Ukraine rebels likely downed passenger jet [View all] DonViejo Jul 2014 OP

Kerry is obviously right on Ukraine. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #1

This will be a battle of ouija boards. cosmicone Jul 2014 #2

I think it was a straight up error, most likely by the rebels daleo Jul 2014 #3

Unfortunately, even nations with significant experience operating these weapons systems... BlueEye Jul 2014 #5

it is possible that the air taffic contol cosmicone Jul 2014 #6

Give it a rest. IronGate Jul 2014 #4

only the US and the puppet government in Ukraine cosmicone Jul 2014 #7

You keep asking "who benefits", but actually no one does, this was an unplanned TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #9

your post proves it doesn't benefit Putin cosmicone Jul 2014 #10

Yes, the Ukrainian ATC actions were deliberate, to kill a planeload of innocents, but TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #12

And yet you said in another thread that you were waiting for the investigation to conclude, IronGate Jul 2014 #13

The jury is in on who benefits from the crash. cosmicone Jul 2014 #15

More mistruths. IronGate Jul 2014 #16

Hypothetically, even if the rebels shot the plane cosmicone Jul 2014 #18

Yes, it was the air traffic controllers who are the real terrorists here. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #20

Or they just wanted to shoot down a plane, any plane. LuvLoogie Jul 2014 #26

The jury is also out on who killed Nicole IDemo Jul 2014 #21

They knew the Rebels had weapons ....I think Kiev hoped for a shoot down Billy Budd Jul 2014 #23

Kiev is ultimately to blame... you're correct. n/t cosmicone Jul 2014 #27

I'm sure the evil, bloodthirsty Ukrainian air traffic controllers are high-fiving each other TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #8

You are gradually navigating towards being correct. n/t cosmicone Jul 2014 #11

Holy shit. You have got to be kidding. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #14

Yet, in other threads, IronGate Jul 2014 #17

Yes, of course, because there so far hasn't BEEN a real investigation and Putin made sure TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #19

I call it the Diode Effect IDemo Jul 2014 #22

Kiev acted irresponsibly Billy Budd Jul 2014 #24

stop with the Info war Billy Budd Jul 2014 #25

+1,000,000 n/t cosmicone Jul 2014 #28

Let facts determine the policy. The reverse of that is the republican way: Policy determines "facts" pampango Jul 2014 #29