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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
21. Exactly.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:55 AM
Jul 2014

He can be pedantic and academically narrow-viewed on occasion, but his take here is the essence of what education is now. It's become punitive to pursue having one. Purposefully so, I'd say. By discouraging the pursuit of college degrees, the result is that there are fewer applicants applying for the non-existent jobs that are being held by the ever-expanding list of robotic replacement(s).

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Algorithms and Red Wine

"But the truth is that each gallon of fossil fuel contains the energy of 40 man-hours. And that has played hell with the ecology of human work, thanks mostly to the money economy. For instance, a simple loaf of bread, starting with the fossil fuels used to grow the wheat, transport, mill, bake, create the packaging materials and packaging, advertise and distribute it, uses the energy of two men working for two weeks. Yet this waste and vast inefficiency is invisible to us because we see it only in terms of money, jobs and commerce. Cheap oil allowed industrial humans to increasingly live on environmental credit for over a century. Now the bill is due and no amount of money can pay it. The calorie, pure heat expenditure as energy, is the only currency in which Mother Nature trades. Period.

Despite that America produced such thinkers on the subject of living simply as Thoreau, modern hydrocarbon based civilization has driven expectations of material goods and convenience, and the transactions surrounding those expectations, through the stratosphere. Money has abstracted the notion of work to the point where, I dare say, there are not 100,000 people in America who truly understand that, although there are at least a few million trying to understand and liberate themselves.

When viewed from outside the virtual money economy, and from the standpoint of the planet’s caloric economy, probably half of American and European jobs are not only unnecessary, but also terribly destructive, either directly or indirectly. Yet what nation or economic state acknowledges the need for a transition away from jobs that aren't necessary. None, because such an economy could not support the war machines or the transactional financial industries that dominate our needs hierarchy for the benefit of the few. Loaning us money we have already earned, stuffing us with corn syrup. And I won’t even go into the strong possibility that everybody does not need to be employed at all times for the world to keep on turning."

~ Joe Bageant, "Algorithms and Red Wine"

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Kick.... daleanime Jul 2014 #1
I'm one of them and it'll eat my Social Security. Happy happy joy joy rickyhall Jul 2014 #2
I am not judging Iamthetruth Jul 2014 #6
That's an interesting question. TBF Jul 2014 #23
I co-signed a couple for the kid. Does that count? JeffHead Jul 2014 #3
He has a degree. All is not lost. Not being sarcastic. That degree means he'll be ready to go Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #8
I'm also 2naSalit Jul 2014 #4
Add me to that list. progressoid Jul 2014 #5
I Hope I Can Pay Mine Off by Then lib87 Jul 2014 #7
At 58 arikara Jul 2014 #9
congrats. keep evidence that u paid them off. sneaky debt buyers go after people yrs later Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #10
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #11
That Noam Chomsky quote is spot-on. Psephos Jul 2014 #17
Exactly. DeSwiss Jul 2014 #21
I have spent the last two decades or more SheilaT Jul 2014 #12
I am ashamed that I still have student-loan debt. I just turned 50. CoffeeCat Jul 2014 #13
You should not be ashamed. Quite the opposite. Psephos Jul 2014 #18
You have nothing to be ashamed of. DeSwiss Jul 2014 #22
As an early boomer, I think mine was probably the last generation IrishAyes Jul 2014 #14
We have family friends and their combined income is close to $180,000… CoffeeCat Jul 2014 #16
they do not take all your money angrychair Jul 2014 #15
If we want to be a strong country with a strong middle class, then we'd PatrickforO Jul 2014 #19
stop originating the loans quadrature Jul 2014 #20
Locking... DonViejo Jul 2014 #24
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