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In reply to the discussion: Terrorists fire rockets from Gaza hospital [View all]RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)71. We are Israeli reservists. We refuse to serve.
We are Israeli reservists. We refuse to serve.
A petition.
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To us, the current military operation and the way militarization affects Israeli society are inseparable. In Israel, war is not merely politics by other means it replaces politics. Israel is no longer able to think about a solution to a political conflict except in terms of physical might; no wonder it is prone to never-ending cycles of mortal violence. And when the cannons fire, no criticism may be heard.
This petition, long in the making, has a special urgency because of the brutal military operation now taking place in our name. And although combat soldiers are generally the ones prosecuting todays war, their work would not be possible without the many administrative roles in which most of us served. So if there is a reason to oppose combat operations in Gaza, there is also a reason to oppose the Israeli military apparatus as a whole. That is the message of this petition:
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We were soldiers in a wide variety of units and positions in the Israeli militarya fact we now regret, because, in our service, we found that troops who operate in the occupied territories arent the only ones enforcing the mechanisms of control over Palestinian lives. In truth, the entire military is implicated. For that reason, we now refuse to participate in our reserve duties, and we support all those who resist being called to service.
The Israeli Army, a fundamental part of Israelis lives, is also the power that rules over the Palestinians living in the territories occupied in 1967. As long as it exists in its current structure, its language and mindset control us: We divide the world into good and evil according to the militarys categories; the military serves as the leading authority on who is valued more and who less in society who is more responsible for the occupation, who is allowed to vocalize their resistance to it and who isnt, and how they are allowed to do it. The military plays a central role in every action plan and proposal discussed in the national conversation, which explains the absence of any real argument about non-military solutions to the conflicts Israel has been locked in with its neighbors.
The Palestinian residents of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are deprived of civil rights and human rights. They live under a different legal system from their Jewish neighbors. This is not exclusively the fault of soldiers who operate in these territories. Those troops are, therefore, not the only ones obligated to refuse. Many of us served in logistical and bureaucratic support roles; there, we found that the entire military helps implement the oppression of the Palestinians.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/07/23/we-are-israeli-reservists-we-refuse-to-serve/
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The Israelis found Israeli military uniforms in a Palestinian tunnel, but the Palestinians
JDPriestly
Jul 2014
#112
Then the world should be pressuring the palestinians to dump Hamas as their leaders.
7962
Jul 2014
#87
So the world SHOULDNT tell the Palestinians to rid themselves of a terrorist organization??
7962
Jul 2014
#108
Ah, so Hamas made you do it? I could swear I've heard that somewhere before...
Violet_Crumble
Jul 2014
#89
I specifically said children WERE civilians. Their parents are to blame for not moving.
7962
Jul 2014
#90
If they took to the streets denouncing Hamas, they'd have immediate support of Egypt, Jordan, etc
7962
Jul 2014
#129
So, according to you Hamas has allowed you to say only children are civilians...
Violet_Crumble
Jul 2014
#122
YEah, after all, what do they have to show for the billions in aid they've been given?
7962
Jul 2014
#46
There are most certainly shelters, but they will eventually be compromised and bombed.
blackspade
Jul 2014
#66
I'm not 'pretending' that I was saying that civilians were building their own shelters....
blackspade
Jul 2014
#97
No. You called another DUer a liar in this thread for not providing links...
Violet_Crumble
Jul 2014
#127
And in this case the excuse would be justified. Israel has every right to take out
totodeinhere
Jul 2014
#14
Says the guy cheering on the Israeli murder of more than a hundred children.
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2014
#15
Using the death of three teenagers as an excuse to kill hundreds, wound thousands, and destroy
Sam1
Jul 2014
#100
IDF shelled the hospital LAST WEEK while the patients were still in the hospital
azurnoir
Jul 2014
#13
The Israelis told everyone to get out over a week ago. Just like they've been doing from the start.
7962
Jul 2014
#48
Is YNet News considered a reliable news source? It's headlines suggest it's not.
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2014
#17
DU doesn't have moderators. And you shouldn't speak on behalf of LBN hosts...
Violet_Crumble
Jul 2014
#123
It was mentioned a couple days ago the main general hospital also has a complex under it.
Sunlei
Jul 2014
#18
Great video OF ARTILLERY STRIKES, where is the video of Missile and rocket launching???
happyslug
Jul 2014
#29
I watched the video and I did not see any rockets launched from the building either
Bjorn Against
Jul 2014
#53
Believe it. It is not justifiable to blow up a hostpital just because there are rockets in it.
The Stranger
Jul 2014
#41
I made an effort to use Israel for the present Government, and Jews for that nationaity
happyslug
Jul 2014
#117
I'd guess that they care as much as any people being trompled by a Goliath...
countryjake
Jul 2014
#62
Of course there are. But why are you expecting them to speak up on behalf of Israelis right now?
Violet_Crumble
Jul 2014
#124