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97. perhaps it is, perhaps not, using airliners as human shields

Thu Jul 24, 2014, 06:31 PM

Jul 2014

seemed to be a common experience, or perhaps it's just a theory?

Says this woman in a video uploaded on June 18:

1:09 For example an incident that happened recently. Passenger plane was flying by.
1:16 And Ukrainian attack aircraft hid behind it.
1:22 Then he lowered his altitude a bit and dropped bombs on residential sector of Semenovka town.
1:27 Than he regained the altitude and hid behind the passenger plane again. Then he left.
1:31 They wanted to provoke the militia to shoot at the passenger plane. There would be a global catastrophe. Civilians would have died.
1:49 Then they would say that terrorists here did it. There are no terrorists here. There are regular people here,
1:55 that came out in defence of their own city.
2:00 They can't bear this anymore. How long is this going to go on.
2:05 There are children here, elderly people, WW2 veterans that have to live through it again.
2:12 Don't you have any humanity left in you?

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Exclusive: Ukraine rebel commander acknowledges fighters had BUK missile [View all] Bosonic Jul 2014 OP

That was already known to be a fact. dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #1

Did you read the third paragraph? Bosonic Jul 2014 #2

I'd missed that. dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #4

Yup. Your narrative is crumbling. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #29

There was however something else that did become clear dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #30

There's nothing left to "figure". We know exactly what happened, and Russia's the root cause. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #33

dipsy, time to admit that innocent fighters against facism killed a planeload of civilians... Adrahil Jul 2014 #31

No...the article seems to say that Ukraine provoked the attack...not Russia... KoKo Jul 2014 #50

That's nonsense. Adrahil Jul 2014 #51

No...it said that Ukrainian aircraft attacked the area just before KoKo Jul 2014 #52

That may be the background reason dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #53

So dippy... It's Ukraine's fault? That's your position? Adrahil Jul 2014 #55

It's the fault of the person who pressed the damn button..... lexx21 Jul 2014 #92

And yet, they targeted and killed an airliner.... Adrahil Jul 2014 #54

Read Post 45 for context...you have yet to do that...... KoKo Jul 2014 #58

Yes, I read the post. It's freakin' nonsense. I'll reply to it for ya. Adrahil Jul 2014 #94

Just that? Codeine Jul 2014 #39

Sounds like you have new facts to learn. Read the story. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #3

Sounds confused that man ? jakeXT Jul 2014 #6

No, he has remarkable clarity. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #14

And they knew Kiev used passenger planes as human shields jakeXT Jul 2014 #18

You know not everything on the Internet is true, right? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #21

But the State Department told me so.. /nt jakeXT Jul 2014 #24

It has been proven that Kiev ATC sent the Malaysian plane cosmicone Jul 2014 #26

That's the stupidest shit I've read today. tabasco Jul 2014 #105

"Owned" is a broad term.... happyslug Jul 2014 #22

he's saying the rebels were in possession of the missiles geek tragedy Jul 2014 #23

You seem to misunderstand what Reuters reported reorg Jul 2014 #67

Man, just like the Russian information ministry, your ability geek tragedy Jul 2014 #70

"I heard about it" - "I think" - "They probably" - "I was told" reorg Jul 2014 #74

so, now that he's towing the Moscow line, he's no longer a double agent? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #75

Looks like Western propaganda is quite effective outside of China and India reorg Jul 2014 #77

No, it's that the rest of the planet doesn't get brainwashed by Russia's propaganda geek tragedy Jul 2014 #80

They also have something prepared for Germany jakeXT Jul 2014 #91

But but but Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #5

That poster has been conspicuously absent Codeine Jul 2014 #34

maybe that young man went west nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #36

Good one davidpdx Jul 2014 #71

coincidentally, the low post ones appear geek tragedy Jul 2014 #72

hmm...good observation davidpdx Jul 2014 #73

Squirrel! Iliyah Jul 2014 #7

they can call this guy as a witness, he seems to have something geek tragedy Jul 2014 #8

Further down in the article, Reuters reports that Khodakovsky is one of the amandabeech Jul 2014 #9

this is a giant chasm between the factions. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #10

He sounds tired of the whole thing. amandabeech Jul 2014 #12

it has gone on too long. he knows it nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #15

Maybe, just maybe, this man has a heart. Iliyah Jul 2014 #19

How many other "separatists" might feel the same way after the shoot-down. amandabeech Jul 2014 #28

We have no other option, jakeXT Jul 2014 #16

He is probably a plant by the Ukrainian puppet government n/t cosmicone Jul 2014 #27

Didn't he switch sides ozone_man Jul 2014 #32

Nope. still shooting at government troops. He's just telling the truth, unlike geek tragedy Jul 2014 #35

Oh good lord. Codeine Jul 2014 #37

it's all they got. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #38

Which begs the question.. wth do they have Cha Jul 2014 #61

Oh good god, IronGate Jul 2014 #69

"I am required to promote the side I represent, even if I might think otherwise geek tragedy Jul 2014 #11

He also likes to make everything clear in his intercepted phone calls jakeXT Jul 2014 #13

sounds like he is the source for uncovering a lot of evil deeds reorg Jul 2014 #20

That's it! Even though he's been waging war against Ukraine's government geek tragedy Jul 2014 #57

Khodakovskiy says that he never stated to his interviewer anything of the kind reorg Jul 2014 #59

Life News. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #64

Do you speak Russian? reorg Jul 2014 #65

Say, why did Team Putin not release geek tragedy Jul 2014 #66

I don't know about Putin, but I did. reorg Jul 2014 #68

men wearing Ukraine Military Uniform fired the missile Billy Budd Jul 2014 #76

Robert Parry, a known Kremlin sycophant, is the only source on the planet for the uniform claim. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #78

Robert Parry is a noted journalist Billy Budd Jul 2014 #79

"in the 1980's" --yes, part of being a "has-been" is having once displayed merit and achievement. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #81

However Billy Budd Jul 2014 #82

have you ever been west, young man? nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #83

yes I saw this on the LA Times Billy Budd Jul 2014 #84

"it was possible the SA-11 was launched by a defector from the Ukrainian military who was trained geek tragedy Jul 2014 #85

what about number 4 Billy Budd Jul 2014 #87

No intelligent, sane human being believes this was a US-sponsored black op. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #88

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #89

Because people who promote that crazy talk cite white supremacists like Paul Craig Roberts to geek tragedy Jul 2014 #90

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #86

The guy is obviously a plant and not a real rebel representative cosmicone Jul 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jul 2014 #41

. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #42

Excellent comparison. GliderGuider Jul 2014 #45

More like cosmicone Jul 2014 #48

The straws, you must grasp at them!! Codeine Jul 2014 #44

It is not a straw but a huge sturdy column with handles to hold n/t cosmicone Jul 2014 #46

Mmm-hmm. nt Codeine Jul 2014 #49

He was reported as a rebel commander by the NYT 6 weeks ago. Adrahil Jul 2014 #56

Oppsie! blackspade Jul 2014 #17

Kick & recommended. William769 Jul 2014 #25

Sounds like he's close to unburdening his soul. GliderGuider Jul 2014 #43

My read is that he's saying Ukraine provoked the missle attack KoKo Jul 2014 #47

He now says he never made the alleged statement reorg Jul 2014 #60

Well...it came from the Reuter's Report of the OP..... KoKo Jul 2014 #62

Yes, I know reorg Jul 2014 #63

This is SUCH BS Adrahil Jul 2014 #95

perhaps it is, perhaps not, using airliners as human shields reorg Jul 2014 #97

Reuters releases the audio: joshcryer Jul 2014 #93

But you link to "Radio Free Europe"? reorg Jul 2014 #96

"I knew that a Buk came from Luhansk" joshcryer Jul 2014 #98

"I do NOT know about this Buk ... reorg Jul 2014 #99

So, confirmation. joshcryer Jul 2014 #100

I know you are not really that slow reorg Jul 2014 #101

If the rebels didn't have Buks, Ukraine geek tragedy Jul 2014 #102

just read what Khodakovsky said, please? reorg Jul 2014 #103

Seems like an attempt to transition geek tragedy Jul 2014 #104