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JackRiddler

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138. Why do you ask questions with a false premise?

Fri Jul 25, 2014, 02:17 PM

Jul 2014

There are reports of a synagogue attacked in Sarcelle, and I certainly have acknowledged this. That kind of action needs to be counteracted, it is not acceptable.

On "the other thread," there were reports of a synagogue attacked in central Paris, which the leader thereof refuted promptly in a TV interview as entirely untrue, even as he implicitly blamed the "rather sulfurous" JDL, a radical Jewish supremacist hate group.

On DU we see exaggerations of such incidents (in this case ignoring thousands of protesters and focusing on a handful), and also many blanket defamations of Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, or the supporters of the Palestinian cause, or all those who oppose the ongoing Israeli war crimes and massacres of civilians of occupied Gaza. There are attempts to characterize these groups as motivated solely by "anti-Semitism" or of just being plain "animals." That needs to be counteracted, too.

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France's Jews Flee As Rioters Burn Paris Shops, Attack Synagogue [View all] iandhr Jul 2014 OP

Where are the damn police? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #1

It is. Anti-semitism is driving the hatred of Israel in certain quarters. Not all. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #5

One can understand why in the immediate area geek tragedy Jul 2014 #8

Anti semitic behavior Iamthetruth Jul 2014 #11

I posted statistics in post #92 Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #94

"Not paying attention to something is a sure way to let it grow out of hand." Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #96

Yes, I don't get it. Attacks on Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #98

Exactly! LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #131

Bingo, double standards suck.nt Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #148

+1 JudyM Jul 2014 #154

Well said.nt Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #95

excellent, well balanced post... dhill926 Jul 2014 #38

They should not NEED to be guarding Jewish businesses. DFW Jul 2014 #14

the whole thing in Europe is fucked up. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #16

Not equally DFW Jul 2014 #22

one thing Europeans don't condescend towards the US very much on geek tragedy Jul 2014 #51

Blaming the Muslims for all of this? philosslayer Jul 2014 #126

Good old-fashioned French natives Codeine Jul 2014 #142

And folks wonder why I am 100 percent in approval of Israel in all they do yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #79

"In all they do"? candelista Jul 2014 #128

Maybe it's like the us? Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #86

in the US, the Jews could buy hunting rifles and that would end this right quick geek tragedy Jul 2014 #89

I agree. I may be wrong but I think others would help also.nt Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #93

Wow, that's disgusting. freshwest Jul 2014 #150

Really....maybe the offenders would like to be deported.. Historic NY Jul 2014 #2

How do you know "the offenders" are not citizens? JackRiddler Jul 2014 #6

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A lot of them are born in France, though, second and third geek tragedy Jul 2014 #9

especially the white ones IronLionZion Jul 2014 #124

It appears the are trying to initiate a Pogrom. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2014 #3

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November 9 1938 George II Jul 2014 #4

You are correct..this is awful beyond words. Stuart G Jul 2014 #13

+ 10000. K&R. nt riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #48

So you think this is ok Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #97

What the heck started this? SummerSnow Jul 2014 #7

Israel-Gaza attacks in the news TeamPooka Jul 2014 #10

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People teaching children to hate seveneyes Jul 2014 #42

Once upon a time there was a region called Palestine pscot Jul 2014 #55

Jews refused to die out. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #56

Mobs see no difference between 'ones who loudly proclaim how much they hate themselves' and others. freshwest Jul 2014 #151

It started thousands of years ago... LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #132

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Never happen. DFW Jul 2014 #15

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No, they don't, but they are not fools, either DFW Jul 2014 #25

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No one should be persecuted, period. DFW Jul 2014 #32

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BS or not, it is reality DFW Jul 2014 #43

Is this the case to which you are referring? xocet Jul 2014 #58

Barry Washington was the corrupt cop DFW Jul 2014 #72

Who are " these groups " ? Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #26

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I guess you can't say it after all. Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #33

No, can't be said get the red out Jul 2014 #78

Al-Jazeera says the demonstrations were organized by Arab immigrant groups in France aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #57

A Tunisian-French teen gets killed by cops Igel Jul 2014 #29

So the "locals" iandhr Jul 2014 #46

Arab population of France is 10%. Arab population of Israel is 20% and rising. shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #61

People are so stupid! PatrickforO Jul 2014 #19

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After 9/11 RobertEarl Jul 2014 #62

Did you see that as bigotry? Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #63

Did you see it as bigotry? RobertEarl Jul 2014 #64

I asked you, can you not answer the question? Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #65

It was dangerous is what i said. RobertEarl Jul 2014 #67

Bigotry Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #68

Yep RobertEarl Jul 2014 #69

But what I asked was if you saw it as bigotry. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #70

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It's still, an has always been, siginificantly higher for jews Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #84

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I didn't ask if there WAS bigotry against Muslims after 9-11 Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #91

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My reply was meant for FobertEarl specifically Guaguacoa Jul 2014 #92

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Then this shows another level of stupidity. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #66

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Hundreds of French Jews Immigrate To Israel During Gaza Offensive Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #23

I know more than one French Jew who has done that, too. DFW Jul 2014 #28

Considering whats going on in France... Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #31

I'm in France every week for work and speak French DFW Jul 2014 #35

Unless you were brought up with that fear Iamthetruth Jul 2014 #53

Spot on point.. 2banon Jul 2014 #54

"Hundreds." Here is some context. JackRiddler Jul 2014 #39

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From the article... Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #44

They were emigrating from France before this frazzled Jul 2014 #45

Israel is a government entity.. Judaism is a faith Peacetrain Jul 2014 #36

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Yes they should! Peacetrain Jul 2014 #40

Jew haters are all over Europe Baclava Jul 2014 #47

except that these protesters are immigrants reorg Jul 2014 #146

Your post is not clear - MrBig Jul 2014 #153

You provided a video excerpt reorg Jul 2014 #155

The youth have no memory of how fucked up France was after WWII. If you help applegrove Jul 2014 #49

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Paris was zombieland after WWII with people walking around saying "we did what to the jews?". applegrove Jul 2014 #85

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Yeah. And they were broken. A broken people. Clinging to the myth of the resistance. applegrove Jul 2014 #90

France ranked 3rd in the world for the number of righteous gentiles who saved Jews during WWII aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #99

Coco Chanel was active with the Nazis adigal Jul 2014 #116

I did not hear she was a Nazi until the last few years. Yup there were alot of collaborators. applegrove Jul 2014 #117

Where in the hell are the adults in this world? From the 60s - violence begets violence. Grow up. jwirr Jul 2014 #50

Bad or missing guardians seveneyes Jul 2014 #52

Where are the police? Democat Jul 2014 #71

This is deplorable.. these Jewish People in France are not Netenyahu and his policies.. Damn! Cha Jul 2014 #59

They aren't the only ones getting this type of treatment. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #60

.. Cha Jul 2014 #109

From Belgium Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #121

It's horrendous how some people go off the deep end with their universal size broad brush Cha Jul 2014 #122

You are 100% correct MrBig Jul 2014 #119

You have to wonder why these Arab/Islamic groups held their demonstration in a Jewish neighborhood aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #80

Hate, and the practice thereof seveneyes Jul 2014 #81

This is a good point Ash_F Jul 2014 #83

Exactly, anln.. you make excellent points. Cha Jul 2014 #111

This is inhuman. NaturalHigh Jul 2014 #77

I have been reading stories like this from France for years. Ash_F Jul 2014 #82

netanyahoo is dragging all jews down RedstDem Jul 2014 #100

No, we shouldn't have to "speak up" except to shout down the anti-Semites responsilbe. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #101

Nobody would get away with saying Codeine Jul 2014 #102

What a truly disgusting thing to say. nt sufrommich Jul 2014 #103

I've heard this before MrBig Jul 2014 #104

people who hate Jews would do so without Netanyahu , this is like right wingers who always JI7 Jul 2014 #105

Much as you are dragging down everyone who can accurately spell and use grammar. LanternWaste Jul 2014 #141

yuk yuk yuk RedstDem Jul 2014 #160

Have mercy archaic56 Jul 2014 #106

Kristallnacht again? muntrv Jul 2014 #107

In this case, Cristalnuit! Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #108

+1000 n/t MrBig Jul 2014 #120

I think Israel has been brutal, but what do the French Jews have to do with this?? adigal Jul 2014 #113

Israel is irrelevant DavidDvorkin Jul 2014 #114

I know. They would use any excuse they could. adigal Jul 2014 #115

Israel is a pretext, an excuse, Codeine Jul 2014 #118

What do Palestinian civilians have to do with terrorists launching rockets? Ash_F Jul 2014 #123

Are the shops owned by French Jews being used to hide missile launchers? DavidDvorkin Jul 2014 #125

Nonsense. Ash_F Jul 2014 #127

You are ignoring the point DavidDvorkin Jul 2014 #129

Yes they are. /nt Ash_F Jul 2014 #136

Absolutely agree -- no matter how vicious Israel has been during this campaign, attacks on Jews stranger81 Jul 2014 #161

Totally misleading headline... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #130

The synagogue attacked was in Sarcelles. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #133

False reports were made of a synagogue attack in Paris... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #134

It was a suburb of Paris. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #135

A false report was made about an attack... JackRiddler Jul 2014 #139

But not from the thread from which you are complaining! Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #140

Could you please point out where reorg Jul 2014 #143

The 2nd paragraph Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #145

That's all you know about it? reorg Jul 2014 #147

You have any proof contridicting the report? Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #149

as I have pointed out reorg Jul 2014 #152

There was a synagogue attacked Codeine Jul 2014 #137

Why do you ask questions with a false premise? JackRiddler Jul 2014 #138

Are you referring to Sarcelles? reorg Jul 2014 #144

Here King_David Jul 2014 #156

I assume reorg Jul 2014 #157

? King_David Jul 2014 #158

it that a question? reorg Jul 2014 #159