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3. Murder

Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:23 PM

Jul 2014

If the shooting was in the house, the old man could have claimed self-defense, and I would have been okay with that, perhaps even if the girl was shot in the back.

But this shooting was in an alley, after the girl had tripped and fell while running away. That's murder. And if I were on the jury, I'd have no problem at all sending him to prison for 10 years.

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LA coroner: Burglar killed by homeowner not pregnant [View all] Archae Jul 2014 OP

Thank you for the story. That is good, but he still thought she was when he killed her. uppityperson Jul 2014 #1

who says he thought she was pregnant? lululu Jul 2014 #20

Fwiw, a broken collar bone is not severely injured and is easy to do with an elderly person uppityperson Jul 2014 #42

Other threads have links that say both the man and woman jumped on top of him and punched him. freshwest Jul 2014 #49

I go with you. LiberalFighter Jul 2014 #58

He shot her in the back while she was fleeing. Jail time. marble falls Jul 2014 #25

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #52

I wouldn't have believed her for a minute. Why would I think that magical thyme Jul 2014 #28

Except the story now reads like he followed her, then shot, then shot her again when she fell uppityperson Jul 2014 #43

Yep, that makes it ok to shoot her in the back. blackspade Jul 2014 #2

Police chief did not confirm that she was shot in the back 7962 Jul 2014 #9

No, but the shooter did. blackspade Jul 2014 #33

Yeah,...because I'm sure a judge would have given the death sentence anyway for a burglary. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #17

You know it. blackspade Jul 2014 #32

Murder Shemp Howard Jul 2014 #3

Yeah, this sounds like revenge. C Moon Jul 2014 #4

+2 nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #16

I'm ok with this. These burglars are only contributing to global Lucky Luciano Jul 2014 #34

Your comment is depraved. tabasco Jul 2014 #39

Duly noted. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2014 #44

I have to agree with you christx30 Jul 2014 #47

Looks like the accomplice is being charged with murder. Good. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2014 #48

He could be charged with burglary of the homeowner and as the homeowner's accomplice in murder. Thor_MN Jul 2014 #55

The pair were committing burglary until the Mr. Greer arrived home -- then it also became a robbery. rocktivity Jul 2014 #57

You really missed the point. Thor_MN Jul 2014 #59

My point was only to explain the difference between burlgary and robbery. rocktivity Jul 2014 #60

Which had what relevance to my post? Thor_MN Jul 2014 #61

My post was "needed" by anyone who DOESN'T know the legal difference rocktivity Jul 2014 #64

Seemed personal, with the added emphasis, but I guess it's not a big deal. Thor_MN Jul 2014 #68

Felony or third degree murder rocktivity Jul 2014 #56

"...these punks...they always get away..." SunSeeker Jul 2014 #5

Wrong analogy. Trayvon was 200% innocent and minding his own business. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2014 #37

Imprecise analogy, but the "judge, jury, and executioner" part is accurate. MH1 Jul 2014 #40

In your scenario just described it would not be justified, Lucky Luciano Jul 2014 #46

My point was he was getting retribution for prior break-ins. SunSeeker Jul 2014 #62

Jury nullification is a big possibility MattP Jul 2014 #6

its not florida - maybe there will be some criminal justice samsingh Jul 2014 #7

The man also claims they attacked him. Kablooie Jul 2014 #8

he's not just claiming it. his shoulder and collarbone were seriously injured. nt magical thyme Jul 2014 #29

In California this is second degree murder if she is already fleeing The Second Stone Jul 2014 #10

They haven't decided whether to being charges against him yet. Kablooie Jul 2014 #11

I'm not seeing the relevance of the pregnancy, under the law Kennah Jul 2014 #12

I am calling it now ripcord Jul 2014 #13

"Law and Order" did a show on an elderly man charged with 2nd degree murder. Archae Jul 2014 #35

Yeah, probation plea. Done. harun Jul 2014 #54

DING DING DING! Ripcord, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Jul 2014 #67

Had not heard they were outside the house. That changes things. Thanks. freshwest Jul 2014 #14

At 80 years of wisdom, I wonder if he'll live his remaining years at peace with himself? delrem Jul 2014 #15

probably more at peace lululu Jul 2014 #21

8 lbs. Feral Child Jul 2014 #22

He shot her in the back while she was fleeing. Murdered or with a broken collar bone - which..... marble falls Jul 2014 #26

Here is some info about broken collarbones, clavicle fractures. Very common in all ages. uppityperson Jul 2014 #45

or getting beat by two robbers to Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #51

That post was to give information about broken collarbones. Thanks for reading it. uppityperson Jul 2014 #53

Some years ago, I broke my collarbone. Archae Jul 2014 #65

I wouldn't credit him with much wisdom. Paladin Jul 2014 #30

The robbers assulted him and broke his collarbone.... hadrons Jul 2014 #18

I agree Travis_0004 Jul 2014 #19

As I understand it, this was not the first time they robbed him? At any rate, the man was probably kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #23

As well it should. marble falls Jul 2014 #27

Yep 840high Jul 2014 #36

Lies make baby Jesus cry. JVS Jul 2014 #24

The DUers who attacked others for pointing out that the pregnancy was a matter of the word of a Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #31

What a relief jamzrockz Jul 2014 #38

+1000 MH1 Jul 2014 #41

DU... unreadierLizard Jul 2014 #50

No one is defending burglars. We're objecting to murder. nt SunSeeker Jul 2014 #63

I'm sorry Third Doctor Jul 2014 #66

an asshole contest- and a gun culture JanMichael Jul 2014 #69