LA coroner: Burglar killed by homeowner not pregnant

[freshwest]

49. Other threads have links that say both the man and woman jumped on top of him and punched him.

He got away as they considered him down for the count and went to open the safe. That's not an accident like 'he fell and was injured' as some might think.

The fact that old people are more easily injured doesn't mitigate the cause of the injury, anymore than it would a child being easily injured. If it was a child whose injury was minimized as being said to be easily injured, it would be seen as offensive.

The two robbers only gave ground when they saw the gun. And as might be construed that the robbers were 'not armed' denies that this turned from a 'burglary' into a case of what is known as a 'strong arm robbery.' They were armed by their ability, which they used to bowl him over and beat him.

She also assaulted him with her fists, no way to deny that. I posted a link with pictures, they were strong and healthy looking individuals.

He went for his gun as the only way to equalize his chances if they decided to jump on him and start punching him again, maybe even killing him without the use of 'arms' as we call guns, but they were definitely 'armed.'

Another thread link says his home had been broken into three times. The couple appeared to have planned the robbery and were determined to still get the goods after the assault. They weren't exactly in fear of him nor sorry for having hurt him. I suggest that their lack of mercy led him to respond as he did.

The claim is made he bragged about his shooting her, but another link says that it is not sure she was shot from behind. That came from the official investigation.

That is a major point if they were running, and he went on the offensive after the danger had passed. Some claim that his shooting was premeditated and thus murder. Their actions were clearly premeditated and were carried out in a vicious manner.

His acts and words were likely the result of not believing her claim after he'd been the recipient of her punching him, in a very upclose and personal way. That image is much more powerful than any words she could have said afterwards.

The issue of the gun and the idea there was a pregnancy are foremost in many minds. The latter has been debunked and the former I have tried to explain is not the only way to do harm, as physical strength will kill just as surely as a gun.

Also perhaps that the dead person in this case was female and gave her actions a different slant. It's been discussed a great due to the alleged baby, and has a potent use with those traditions against harming a woman as a potential, or in fact, mother.

And the claim is made that the old man cared more about 'his stuff' than a human life. But the robbers cared far more about getting 'stuff' than his life or their own lives.

His life and body and his dignity as a human being was the 'stuff' he wanted to save, not just 'stuff.' They had no right to take that from him, but were willing to use violence to take his health, body and possibly his life, too. No one seems to want to address that.

The couple became responsible for all that followed their assault, as none of this had to happen. The shooter was not to blame for their lives prior to this encounter, nor can any of us be held responsible for people we don't actively or passively try to harm.

It's been suggested he might be a right wing 'gun nut.' We don't know what his life is about or his political views as has been speculated.

I think the old man was in fear of his life and proud he saved his life if he spouted off, as has been reported. But he did not instigate this and more than likely been happy to have never shot anyone.

Other than making those points, I don't feel I've any right to judge any of the three, sitting here comfortably behind a keyboard. I feel lucky that I am not him or the robbers. This is not our lives we are talking about here.