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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
21. This could end up being a cluster-fuck.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:14 AM
Jul 2014

This isn't going to stand well...DC's handgun prohibition was not principally, but nevertheless intentionally, in place to reduce complications resulting from the myriad legal entanglements that occur when you have entire large areas of the city which are not marked but fall under the jurisdiction of federal agencies with differing legal-statuses for firearms and their own police forces. (DC has 27 operating jurisdictional law-enforcement agencies within its borders) The US Park Service and Capitol Grounds explicitly still ban carrying handguns (I don't know about other LE agencies)...and nobody in the federal government really wants that to change. (Coincidentally, the area under control of the Capitol Hill Police (and thus the exclusion zone) is a lot larger than people realize...it extends well off the Capitol Grounds and into surrounding streets, containing not only the US Capitol but also the areas around the Office Buildings and Library of Congress.) It's what keeps people with handguns off the doorstep of the US Capitol and the White House, away from the Monuments and Smithsonian...and a lot of the rest of the non-residential areas of the city. It effects a necessary safety buffer for the public welfare and maintenance of public order. It's going to create a patchwork of disparate legal-statuses for handguns across the city--literally block-by-block in the Capitol Hill and Downtown areas of the city.

This is going to become apparently an issue when a person walking down the 1600-block of E St NW where it would be legal to carry a handgun takes one step past the curb onto the 1700-block of E St NW entering a national park and the exclusion zone around the White House and is now a felon punishable by years of imprisonment--if the US Secret Service or US Park Police doesn't shoot them dead on sight. (Both have 24-hour sniper coverage of the area. It's scant 2 blocks from the White House on the Constitution Ave. NW side where you don't know you're that close to the White House until--viola!-there it is: South Lawn of the White House.)

This isn't a good thing for gun owners, it's a very bad thing for gun owners which is going to result in a lot of attempting-to-be-responsible gun-owners to potentially become felons and lose RKBA, a lot of police confrontations and potentially a few shootings. More likely, an Act of Congress will quietly be crafted to invalidate the ruling; slipped into something innocuous and passed without fanfare to maintain the desired status-quo without raising the ire of the NRA or RKBA activists.

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Ewwwww!!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #1
!! Ruby the Liberal Jul 2014 #29
How do you know the scent? candelista Jul 2014 #36
Remember when they got to carry on trains? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #37
They don't get to carry on their persons on a train, IronGate Jul 2014 #39
It was the NEWS that caused the premature discharge. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #41
Got it. IronGate Jul 2014 #42
You wouldn't if you saw the puddles. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #43
Now that's an image I could do without. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #44
Fuck! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #2
Madness, complete and utter madness. mountain grammy Jul 2014 #3
There are no better or more fitting words. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #35
This will have a happy ending.... blackspade Jul 2014 #4
Jeebus. Raine1967 Jul 2014 #5
What reason did they pass them for? Recursion Jul 2014 #55
I wasn't here in the 90's. Raine1967 Jul 2014 #57
Just been busy. actually back in DC now! Recursion Jul 2014 #59
Welcome back, Recursion! eom. Raine1967 Jul 2014 #60
I read the ruling Big_Mike Jul 2014 #6
The big issue here, it appears, (and thanks for reading the decision, elleng Jul 2014 #54
As long as you don't bring a gun into the courtroom right? geomon666 Jul 2014 #7
ok, I'll play. Maybe they should modify the ban to exclude a single-shot flint-lock muzzleloader tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #8
And Freedom of the Press only applies to hand presses with lead type SkatmanRoth Jul 2014 #10
(hiding my hand-carry radiation bullet handgun... ) tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #11
YELL SkatmanRoth Jul 2014 #12
no comment on my special tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #13
The Second Ammendment to the Constitution does not mention guns SkatmanRoth Jul 2014 #14
so is child porn free speech in your opinion? tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #15
Red Herring much? SkatmanRoth Jul 2014 #16
yes, quite delicious tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #17
textbook case tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #18
so whats different Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #26
I think the answer tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #27
yes and there are already limits Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #28
I'm actually not interested enough to buy myself a handgun tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #31
I'll concede you may be our local expert on child porn, but deny you have any expertise on the law. 24601 Jul 2014 #24
ah, that little word of yours tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #25
People are directly and inherently harmed in the making of child porn. beevul Jul 2014 #53
Damn shame about that "well regulated militia" part.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #38
So their intent was military state of the art individual weapon. Thanks for admitting it was not a 24601 Jul 2014 #22
Thanks for admitting I'm correct tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #23
This must be the backlash we have been told to expect SkatmanRoth Jul 2014 #9
Strapping on my backpack nuke (arms) right now and heading into DC... onehandle Jul 2014 #19
is it the red, white and blue one? I like that one best tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #20
This could end up being a cluster-fuck. Chan790 Jul 2014 #21
Legally, I don't think it will be quite the cluster-fuck that you claim... S_B_Jackson Jul 2014 #30
Why not open carry in all places in DC atreides1 Jul 2014 #45
Oh hell,...you KNOW Bubba and Skeeter are loadin' up the truck with ammo and beer now. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #40
Is Scullin VA_Jill Jul 2014 #32
Is it a sin to pray that Karma runs over his Dogma? Demeter Jul 2014 #33
Rulings and legislation like this will continue until one or two of the fucktards Hoppy Jul 2014 #34
Watchout atreides1 Jul 2014 #46
I am not promoting such activities but sooner or later it will happen Hoppy Jul 2014 #47
Uh, what happened to local jurisdiction?!1 n/1 UTUSN Jul 2014 #48
Local governments still have to obey the Constitution hack89 Jul 2014 #51
Sadly, DC home rule has always been a joke Recursion Jul 2014 #56
And the craziness continues. sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #49
DC police chief Cathy Lanier IronGate Jul 2014 #50
Welcome the likes of Zimmerman, Michael Dunn, Curtis Reeves to DC. Hoyt Jul 2014 #52
Gee what could go wrong? Marrah_G Jul 2014 #58
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