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Igel

(35,425 posts)
8. Antyufeev was happy enough with Transnistria.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 02:19 PM
Jul 2014

It's not annexed. There are troops, part of the Russian 14th army, there. (IIRC, they were formed locally and petitioned to be made part of the Russian army. There are officially Russian peacekeepers there--mostly to stop fighting, since the Moldovans had so little stomach for fighting that they decided to let the independence movement, such as it was, get established and rooted and take over. This was the Ukrainian scenario. Unless you are willing to fight for something, it's not really all that important to you. The Belarus president, Lukashenko, pointed this out in exquisite irony: If Crimea was that important, part of Ukraine, why wasn't a shot fired to keep it. He said that he'd fight for every inch of Belorus. If the Ukrainians had done this early in the Donbas, the problem might have been solved by law enforcement--before the buildings were taken and armed seized, militias organized, crates of weapons imported.)

Which is Putin's point. If you are willing to take what you want and nobody does more than spout rhetoric at you, you get what you want. The strong man with a will to power succeeds; the decadent Western wimp mumbles in futility and is beaten.

China's watching. It's already set up an oil rig and kicked out neighoring countries' ships from part of the S. China Sea. We're teaching China the same lesson. Because we're afraid that if we stand up to a bully we might get involved in all-out war.

People want a multipolar world. There's one of the poles.

"This whole 'rebellion' seems to be armed Astroturf from across the border" Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #1
so by that standard, we shouldn't offer any assistance or troops to the coup government in Ukraine yurbud Jul 2014 #17
well there is your problem right there Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #20
I don't support either side in that conflict, but I do care about what my government yurbud Jul 2014 #23
But it's such an organic home-grown rebellion! How can this be? TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #2
Antyufeyev is also wanted in Latvia, for trying to restore Soviet Union control muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #3
. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #4
Hilarious video! Always loved that song, never saw this. Thanks. freshwest Jul 2014 #12
And yet we have DUers who STILL say Putin has no interest in any or Ukraine. nt 7962 Jul 2014 #5
Don't you know it's all a cookie based plot for world domination by NeoCons & Nuland! EX500rider Jul 2014 #6
... freshwest Jul 2014 #15
Antyufeev was happy enough with Transnistria. Igel Jul 2014 #8
I think we're starting to stand up to China more, actually. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #11
A lot of people here would call you a right-winger! But I think you're spot on. 7962 Jul 2014 #13
And then it got weird Bosonic Jul 2014 #7
WTF? NickB79 Jul 2014 #22
BTW, why do these Russian guys go by two names? TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #9
Too many consonants in Russian words. Just say Meh! freshwest Jul 2014 #16
Here's an interesting news blip. Igel Jul 2014 #10
Another darn good assessment. nt 7962 Jul 2014 #14
It's a neocon dream, but the timetable is in delay ... Assad is 2 years overdue jakeXT Jul 2014 #21
Maybe Akhmetov rumors, being a former SBU man and giving that strange Reuters interview jakeXT Jul 2014 #18
Well, we now know why Khodakovsky was so forthcoming about the presence of Buk amandabeech Jul 2014 #19
Locking. Purveyor Jul 2014 #24
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