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HiPointDem

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28. There are about 900,000 software engineering jobs in the US. There's about 4.1-4.7% unemployment
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:30 PM
Mar 2012

Job growth in the field is expected to be about 27,000 a year 2010-2020, but from 2006-2011 it was less than that -- about 8%.

http://www.economicmodeling.com/2011/08/19/the-it-tech-sectors-where-the-jobs-are/

"The job market for tech workers in San Jose, San Francisco, and other pockets of the country seems to be thriving. But there also appears to be a considerable excess of new graduates in these fields compared to the annual demand over the next five years. According to EMSI estimates, there are more than 3 times as many graduates as annual job openings through 2016."

You can see in their chart (bottom of page) that there's currently an excess of about 29,000 software engineers:

15-1032 Computer software engineers, systems software 13,664 42,621 28,957 $42.80


Also, supply and demand says that if there's a shortage of workers, wages should go up to attract more people. Contra to that, tech wages are flat -- and actually declining for new hires.

"For new grads, the compensation scale isn’t as promising as years before. For the second straight year, the average salaries of technology professionals with less than two years experience have declined, and are six percent below their peak average wages in 2008."

That's because of outsourcing. There is NO evidence whatsoever that there are shortages in software engineering particulary or tech generally. Stagnant and declining wages = OVERSUPPLY, and that is because the labor market has been opened up to low wage labor from outside the US.

The propaganda coming from the tech sector about the "higher quality" of graduates from india and china is just that: propaganda to justify their low wage strategy.


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It isn't really that surprising johnd83 Mar 2012 #1
When the primary qualification appears to be, "Must work for peanuts"... TheMadMonk Mar 2012 #5
Some jobs are low pay for immigrants, but that is not always true johnd83 Mar 2012 #9
+1 William Seger Mar 2012 #10
(RETRACTED) Not true. caseymoz Mar 2012 #12
Because, you know, it's not like China has a bigger population or anything Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #20
(RETRACTED) Yes, but their higher education system is still pretty bad. caseymoz Mar 2012 #23
There are about 900,000 software engineering jobs in the US. There's about 4.1-4.7% unemployment HiPointDem Mar 2012 #28
(RETRACTED) Very true-- of software engineers. caseymoz Mar 2012 #33
I must have replied to the wrong post; I included the info on software engineering because HiPointDem Mar 2012 #34
Very good statistics and sources. I've reconsidered. caseymoz Mar 2012 #35
I didn't say you were stupid, I said your claim was stupid. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #37
You mean a shortage of indentured servants, don't you? HiPointDem Mar 2012 #32
not reality tru Mar 2012 #24
70% of qualcom hires = non-american. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #30
reason number 3,764 I'm not on facebook bart95 Mar 2012 #2
HA. You and me both! ChromeFoundry Mar 2012 #8
great article '6 reasons i'm not on facebook' by wired uk editor bart95 Mar 2012 #15
All because there are no unemployed software engineers in Silicon Valley Newsjock Mar 2012 #3
Did they have to turn over their passwords during the interview? n/t IDemo Mar 2012 #4
Article is total BS. This has been done for years. eomer Mar 2012 #6
I thought that as soon as I read the headline? This is news? Flash!! Water is wet! riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #7
Really. drm604 Mar 2012 #13
Facebook has done this for years? sarcasmo Mar 2012 #16
The article claims FB "is doing something that no domestic or multinational company has done before" eomer Mar 2012 #17
Yeah, I was about to ask about that Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #21
Exactly. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #18
I thought I was in bizarro world for a sec' when I read that first line. ieoeja Mar 2012 #38
Isn't there a law banning outsourcing except for compelling lack of qualified applicants? alp227 Mar 2012 #11
I wish. beerandjesus Mar 2012 #14
you know, that might explain the insanely inpossible ads I saw dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #19
Here's a video of a guy at a conference coaching companies on how NOT to hire Americans riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #22
+1 sarcasmo Mar 2012 #40
DING DING DING!!! KamaAina Mar 2012 #29
my child, let me introduce you to the real world. tru Mar 2012 #25
I asked bc I recall that the senate filibustered something like that alp227 Mar 2012 #27
They're just doing the work that Americans won't do, trying to make a better life, etc., etc. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #26
Yes, but look at the quality work they do KamaAina Mar 2012 #31
so much stuff is cr*p tru Mar 2012 #36
I doubt it has anything to do with hiring the poorly educated and the incompetent. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #39
Spam deleted by Ruby the Liberal (MIR Team) CompSchool212 May 2012 #41
Little thing about India. ohmindi5 Sep 2012 #42
and you should be proud of your country... hlthe2b Sep 2012 #43
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