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caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
33. (RETRACTED) Very true-- of software engineers.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 07:30 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:52 AM - Edit history (1)

(Facts given here have been demonstrated incorrect through corrections by HiPointDem. I don't, however, take messages down if the facts are incorrect, I leave them up to inform people what I got wrong. I wish this board had a strike-thru feature, but I'll "excerpt" it. I apologize for my errors.)


FoxConn assembles hardware. It was electrical engineers they were looking for. I doubt information you find on the software engineer job market carries over to other advanced and/or tech degrees. We have glut in that market because there was expansion in it for over a decade. Unless you look at the numbers of all advanced and engineering graduates compared to the employment market, you neither get, nor show me, a correct picture.

I agree there's a propaganda element to saying there are no domestically available qualified workers. I find that often very suspect. However, any effective lie has to have at some truth to it. There are other fields where suppression of pay is not a factor and yet, first generation immigrant professionals are now growing in those fields. Such as: look at the figures of doctors in private practice. Half the physicians I've seen in the last decade have Indian and Pakistani last names. That's private practice; they're not working for less.

Underpayment and unavailability of qualified applicants are not factors that are mutually excluding.


However, I stick with this statement:

Don't ignore the dysfunction and decline of our education system, nor the difficulty of affording higher education now.

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It isn't really that surprising johnd83 Mar 2012 #1
When the primary qualification appears to be, "Must work for peanuts"... TheMadMonk Mar 2012 #5
Some jobs are low pay for immigrants, but that is not always true johnd83 Mar 2012 #9
+1 William Seger Mar 2012 #10
(RETRACTED) Not true. caseymoz Mar 2012 #12
Because, you know, it's not like China has a bigger population or anything Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #20
(RETRACTED) Yes, but their higher education system is still pretty bad. caseymoz Mar 2012 #23
There are about 900,000 software engineering jobs in the US. There's about 4.1-4.7% unemployment HiPointDem Mar 2012 #28
(RETRACTED) Very true-- of software engineers. caseymoz Mar 2012 #33
I must have replied to the wrong post; I included the info on software engineering because HiPointDem Mar 2012 #34
Very good statistics and sources. I've reconsidered. caseymoz Mar 2012 #35
I didn't say you were stupid, I said your claim was stupid. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #37
You mean a shortage of indentured servants, don't you? HiPointDem Mar 2012 #32
not reality tru Mar 2012 #24
70% of qualcom hires = non-american. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #30
reason number 3,764 I'm not on facebook bart95 Mar 2012 #2
HA. You and me both! ChromeFoundry Mar 2012 #8
great article '6 reasons i'm not on facebook' by wired uk editor bart95 Mar 2012 #15
All because there are no unemployed software engineers in Silicon Valley Newsjock Mar 2012 #3
Did they have to turn over their passwords during the interview? n/t IDemo Mar 2012 #4
Article is total BS. This has been done for years. eomer Mar 2012 #6
I thought that as soon as I read the headline? This is news? Flash!! Water is wet! riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #7
Really. drm604 Mar 2012 #13
Facebook has done this for years? sarcasmo Mar 2012 #16
The article claims FB "is doing something that no domestic or multinational company has done before" eomer Mar 2012 #17
Yeah, I was about to ask about that Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #21
Exactly. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #18
I thought I was in bizarro world for a sec' when I read that first line. ieoeja Mar 2012 #38
Isn't there a law banning outsourcing except for compelling lack of qualified applicants? alp227 Mar 2012 #11
I wish. beerandjesus Mar 2012 #14
you know, that might explain the insanely inpossible ads I saw dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #19
Here's a video of a guy at a conference coaching companies on how NOT to hire Americans riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #22
+1 sarcasmo Mar 2012 #40
DING DING DING!!! KamaAina Mar 2012 #29
my child, let me introduce you to the real world. tru Mar 2012 #25
I asked bc I recall that the senate filibustered something like that alp227 Mar 2012 #27
They're just doing the work that Americans won't do, trying to make a better life, etc., etc. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #26
Yes, but look at the quality work they do KamaAina Mar 2012 #31
so much stuff is cr*p tru Mar 2012 #36
I doubt it has anything to do with hiring the poorly educated and the incompetent. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #39
Spam deleted by Ruby the Liberal (MIR Team) CompSchool212 May 2012 #41
Little thing about India. ohmindi5 Sep 2012 #42
and you should be proud of your country... hlthe2b Sep 2012 #43
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