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In reply to the discussion: Facebook hires software engineers from India to fill US posts [View all]caseymoz
(5,763 posts)33. (RETRACTED) Very true-- of software engineers.
Last edited Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:52 AM - Edit history (1)
(Facts given here have been demonstrated incorrect through corrections by HiPointDem. I don't, however, take messages down if the facts are incorrect, I leave them up to inform people what I got wrong. I wish this board had a strike-thru feature, but I'll "excerpt" it. I apologize for my errors.)
FoxConn assembles hardware. It was electrical engineers they were looking for. I doubt information you find on the software engineer job market carries over to other advanced and/or tech degrees. We have glut in that market because there was expansion in it for over a decade. Unless you look at the numbers of all advanced and engineering graduates compared to the employment market, you neither get, nor show me, a correct picture.
I agree there's a propaganda element to saying there are no domestically available qualified workers. I find that often very suspect. However, any effective lie has to have at some truth to it. There are other fields where suppression of pay is not a factor and yet, first generation immigrant professionals are now growing in those fields. Such as: look at the figures of doctors in private practice. Half the physicians I've seen in the last decade have Indian and Pakistani last names. That's private practice; they're not working for less.
Underpayment and unavailability of qualified applicants are not factors that are mutually excluding.
I agree there's a propaganda element to saying there are no domestically available qualified workers. I find that often very suspect. However, any effective lie has to have at some truth to it. There are other fields where suppression of pay is not a factor and yet, first generation immigrant professionals are now growing in those fields. Such as: look at the figures of doctors in private practice. Half the physicians I've seen in the last decade have Indian and Pakistani last names. That's private practice; they're not working for less.
Underpayment and unavailability of qualified applicants are not factors that are mutually excluding.
However, I stick with this statement:
Don't ignore the dysfunction and decline of our education system, nor the difficulty of affording higher education now.
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There are about 900,000 software engineering jobs in the US. There's about 4.1-4.7% unemployment
HiPointDem
Mar 2012
#28
I must have replied to the wrong post; I included the info on software engineering because
HiPointDem
Mar 2012
#34
I thought that as soon as I read the headline? This is news? Flash!! Water is wet!
riderinthestorm
Mar 2012
#7
The article claims FB "is doing something that no domestic or multinational company has done before"
eomer
Mar 2012
#17
Isn't there a law banning outsourcing except for compelling lack of qualified applicants?
alp227
Mar 2012
#11
Here's a video of a guy at a conference coaching companies on how NOT to hire Americans
riderinthestorm
Mar 2012
#22
They're just doing the work that Americans won't do, trying to make a better life, etc., etc. nt
Snake Alchemist
Mar 2012
#26
I doubt it has anything to do with hiring the poorly educated and the incompetent.
HiPointDem
Mar 2012
#39