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intaglio

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46. No, he refused treatment
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:27 PM
Jul 2014
Hippocratic Oath (Modern version)

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.


Emphasis mine.
And anti Arabism is alive and well, particularly in Israel, Europe, America. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #12
sigh philip.chinery Aug 2014 #53
Have you ever seen an atom? Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #54
I've seen a lot of anti-Semitism and even more anti-Arabism. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #61
Belgium is under attack?! Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #66
So, because you've never seen it in person IronGate Aug 2014 #56
My suspicion. Igel Aug 2014 #153
yes, I'm against Israel's actions in Gaza, but this is unacceptable nt. Ex Lurker Jul 2014 #2
Unethical. DetlefK Jul 2014 #3
He should lose his license to practice or, at least, suspended from practice. IronGate Jul 2014 #4
Try getting an abortion at a Catholic hospital RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #13
why do we even have to make exception for religion? jamzrockz Jul 2014 #17
Because it puts personal autonomy Igel Aug 2014 #155
Badda bing! nt valerief Jul 2014 #36
Good point nt Tumbulu Aug 2014 #59
I condem this doctor in no uncertain terms RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #5
Westboro Baptist exercises its right to freedom of speech in an JDPriestly Jul 2014 #16
Collective punishment is still a war crime according to the Geneva Conventions n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #18
How do you think the Allies won WWII? JDPriestly Jul 2014 #23
Bombing Dresden and Japan were war crimes RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #32
Immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win is the key. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #41
Convenient of you to overlook the Occupation of Palestine by The Israelis. truedelphi Aug 2014 #64
Actually, I am taking into account the facts as the Allies saw them at the end of WWII. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #116
We might not see Israel's side to it presented on DU, but it is presented truedelphi Aug 2014 #124
IF WBC thought they could get away with it SwankyXomb Jul 2014 #34
If only anti-abortionists didn't shoot and kill doctors, too. nt valerief Jul 2014 #37
This is exactly what we don't need Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #6
That's a rotten thing to do Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #7
The doctor was flat out wrong. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #9
Yes. Yes it is. MrBig Jul 2014 #35
I don't think it is that simple. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #43
No, it really is that simple MrBig Aug 2014 #47
That is the poorest example of a counter argument I've think I've ever seen. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #78
Explain how they are vastly different MrBig Aug 2014 #83
+1000. IronGate Aug 2014 #125
He was wrong and it was anti-Semitism. Even as a one time occurrence of course it was bigotry. uppityperson Aug 2014 #98
As a doctor who hates Netanyahu's actions in Gaza cosmicone Jul 2014 #10
I agree 100%. LoisB Jul 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #14
From your lips to Gods ears.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #21
Very well said. [n/t] stranger81 Aug 2014 #142
Not cool. geardaddy Jul 2014 #15
Fuck Israel d_b Jul 2014 #19
Totally unacceptable treatment Peacetrain Jul 2014 #20
Indeed. The irony is that traditionally, both Christians and Muslims question everything Jul 2014 #22
this man is probably anti semitic to start with. how did he know she was Jewish. Did he decide roguevalley Jul 2014 #25
There is no mention of the doctor's name, or at least I don't see it. amandabeech Jul 2014 #24
Absolutely unacceptable. Aerows Jul 2014 #26
Isreal is stoking that anti-semitism with by creating a racist, apartheid state... mike_c Jul 2014 #27
Oh, the outrage! Beats talking about dead Palestinians. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #28
this is the type of thing right wingers say anytime a minority is attacked in the US JI7 Jul 2014 #33
So calling out anti-Semitism is wrong now? MrBig Jul 2014 #39
So we are supposed to be upset at only 1 type bigotry at a time? uppityperson Aug 2014 #99
Is it not possible to talk about both? LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #106
So you're excusing the doctor's anti-semitism? IronGate Aug 2014 #130
How sad JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #29
He is wrong but there is no denying that two months ago he would have had no problem CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #30
agreed. nt magical thyme Jul 2014 #38
Unacceptable and the doctor should be disbarred n/t intaglio Jul 2014 #31
Utter nonsense. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #44
No, he refused treatment intaglio Jul 2014 #46
Not disbarment, loss of license to practice medicine. nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #49
Doctors are struck off; not disbarred; but refusing to treat a patient because of their ethnic group LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #107
Out of line. Aristus Jul 2014 #40
Anti semitism is alive and well in a doctor in Belgium. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #42
Nonsense. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #45
So the doctor assumed that because she's Jewish, IronGate Aug 2014 #48
You are correct, but like the cleaning of a house.... Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #50
It is amazing, isn't it. IronGate Aug 2014 #51
Frankly nothing surprises me about DU anymore leftynyc Aug 2014 #73
What surprises me is how many find excuses to support the murder in Gaza. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #77
It's a war leftynyc Aug 2014 #81
There is no evidence this woman supports Israel MrBig Aug 2014 #103
"but it was only 1 time" and "he was provoked" uppityperson Aug 2014 #100
Even more amazing... Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #136
The fact you can't see the difference is not suprising, but doesn't change the nature. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #139
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #140
It doesn't change the fact it was anti-Semitic. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #141
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #143
That should have been my response to you...SEVERAL posts ago. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #144
Ask yourself leftynyc Aug 2014 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #159
One question. Guaguacoa Aug 2014 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #158
Without doubt! etherealtruth Aug 2014 #157
Nonsense. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #76
Hopeless MrBig Aug 2014 #104
OMG, what nonsense. IronGate Aug 2014 #111
Logic 101? IronGate Aug 2014 #132
This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have Guaguacoa Aug 2014 #151
he should follow the example of the brave Israeli doctors jberryhill Aug 2014 #52
Where do these "evacuees" go? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #69
I think you missed the point jberryhill Aug 2014 #72
What the fuck does that have to leftynyc Aug 2014 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #86
Unless that woman is massacring muslims Guaguacoa Aug 2014 #152
First, this board is thick with people "pissed about the Israelis," as is every liberal news site in LTX Aug 2014 #156
Wow, that's fucking vile Scootaloo Aug 2014 #55
It was wrong, but losing his license is much too drastic. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #80
No, it isn't. IronGate Aug 2014 #131
I believe it's anti semitism gwheezie Aug 2014 #57
No doctor should deny treatment to anyone. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #58
A doctor in Belgium is a raging asshole who should lose his license. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #60
Primum non nocere. longship Aug 2014 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #65
It is anti-Semitic. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #68
He was making an anti-Semitic point. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #70
it is anti semitism, it's like right wingers who think it's ok to treat black people badly JI7 Aug 2014 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #88
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling n/t MrBig Aug 2014 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #94
how dare i refer to bigots as "these people" JI7 Aug 2014 #117
These People=Bigots DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #145
I'm sure you'd be leftynyc Aug 2014 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #87
More bullshit leftynyc Aug 2014 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #91
This thread is not about I/P leftynyc Aug 2014 #97
What bullshit!!!!! IronGate Aug 2014 #119
Yes there is treatment for broken ribs, you wrap the affected ribs tightly to IronGate Aug 2014 #118
I don't think they wrap broken ribs anymore. Codeine Aug 2014 #126
As a Paramedic, yes we do, what happens at the hospital MAY be different, IronGate Aug 2014 #127
You are correct. In and of itself, this one incident is not anti-Semitic--it is anti Israel by proxy BillZBubb Aug 2014 #79
No, it's antisemitic. If the woman had been Israeli, it would have been anti-Israel; but she is a LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #109
It's unacceptable no matter what. PersonNumber503602 Aug 2014 #93
This is clear anti-semitism fujiyama Aug 2014 #122
Well that's a stupid post, its like refusing to treat a black person for the actions of Uganda. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2014 #128
Please note how many DUers responding to this thread do not see this as anti-semitism oberliner Aug 2014 #82
It's incredibly depressing MrBig Aug 2014 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #90
And you have the absolute right to be called out MrBig Aug 2014 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #135
So people in the US that refused Guaguacoa Aug 2014 #154
There are plenty of articles/postings on this site criticizing Israel and as far as I can tell PersonNumber503602 Aug 2014 #96
Who here is saying forgive Israel their actions because a doctor elsewhere acted on bigotry? uppityperson Aug 2014 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #114
Nobody is saying 'forgive the Israelis their transgressions because someone was antisemitic' LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #108
Thank you for this post MrBig Aug 2014 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #112
I am not a doctor - I am a researcher in an area slightly related to medicine LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #113
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #115
There is treatment for fractured ribs, wrap them tightly to prevent movement. nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #121
WTF are you talking about forgiving Israel for these "transgressions'? IronGate Aug 2014 #120
Hey Tumbulu, maybe you didn't notice, IronGate Aug 2014 #133
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #134
Not surprising at all leftynyc Aug 2014 #85
I'm disturbed by the excuses some posters are making fujiyama Aug 2014 #123
It's anti-Semitism. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #147
Who has used him to justify that? oberliner Aug 2014 #149
That is unforgivable LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #105
In the category of "Not Helping" booley Aug 2014 #129
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #137
I'm no fan of Israel's current policies of aggression, but this is not right. Liberal_from_va34 Aug 2014 #138
The man is a bigoted boor. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #146
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