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83. It could possibly be airborne...

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:59 AM

Aug 2014

Here is a link to an article about 2012 research in which possible airborne transmission of Ebola was observed from pigs to monkeys.

http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-airborne-112112

Of course, there are many unknowns, but it is possible that this strain is airborne or just incredibly virulent. After all, 670 are dead, the worst Ebola outbreak ever.

It's also very curious that these three American ms who were fighting Ebola--have all suddenly been infected. They were following CDC guidelines, which meant that they were suited up like astronauts. They've been working with Ebola patients for months, but suddenly 1 is dead and two are on the verge of death.

It's possible that the Ebola strain has become more lethal, for many reasons, including maybe being airborne.

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Ebola patient to be transferred to Atlanta's Emory hospital [View all] deminks Jul 2014 OP

Sorry but that's a bit frightening. Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #1

More than just a bit. This is a lot frightening. n/t Tess49 Jul 2014 #2

What's that sound? The sound of people stampeding away from the hospital. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #3

WTF? bigwillq Jul 2014 #4

Say Hello to Stories about how Ebola has infected someone in America.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2014 #5

It will be bad. bigwillq Jul 2014 #6

I'm not worried about issolation protocols being followed defacto7 Jul 2014 #37

isolation during transport is likely the riskiest part of transferring.... mike_c Jul 2014 #7

Yes. There are so many possible single points of failure. Divernan Jul 2014 #40

Can't they build wheniwasincongress Jul 2014 #8

The isolation should not be that difficult. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #9

Isolation A Little Weird Jul 2014 #32

I worked with patients in isolation--special air systems and everything. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #34

If you want a little bedtime reading while thinking about the implications. Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #10

One of the scariest non-fiction books ever, next to ' THE COMING PLAGUE: Newly Emerging Diseases in Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #31

I have both on audiobook Marrah_G Jul 2014 #71

Scary books, aren't they? I'm trying to read 'Lab 257' right now. Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #74

Spillover is fantastic Marrah_G Aug 2014 #76

+1. Spillover loved how it was broken down -what a great book of science reporting,history & travel lunasun Aug 2014 #99

If you don't mind another rec: politicat Aug 2014 #81

OOO I shall check that out too :) Marrah_G Aug 2014 #88

I really like Laurie Garret. Been following her for years. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2014 #89

Indeed. Gives the horrific reality to the rather normal-sounding "vomiting and diarrhea" reports. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #55

Hot Zone is quite good ChazII Aug 2014 #100

What can they do for the patients here YarnAddict Jul 2014 #11

If everything was being done right, over 100 medical workers would not be infected with Ebola. Divernan Jul 2014 #15

Yes and no... defacto7 Jul 2014 #35

You're correct. Mutation could result in new vectors. Divernan Jul 2014 #36

It's possible that everything is being done right! CoffeeCat Aug 2014 #84

Guilt XemaSab Jul 2014 #29

CDC has about two dozen staffers in West Africa to try to control outbreak;plans to send more. Divernan Jul 2014 #12

What are they thinking? Marthe48 Jul 2014 #13

This is a very bad idea The Traveler Jul 2014 #14

Hope you can find another medical center for your child's treatment. Divernan Jul 2014 #17

Can't. But thanks The Traveler Jul 2014 #38

I'm sorry to hear that. Best wishes for him. deurbano Jul 2014 #61

Every flight goes through Atlanta it seems. Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #19

There is no need for this tempting of Fate. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #56

I would not be too quick to panic passiveporcupine Jul 2014 #16

Both of the Americans used protective equipment and still somehow got the disease. LisaL Jul 2014 #18

Where did I claim it's not infectious? passiveporcupine Jul 2014 #22

Even the most educated people about this virus are catching it. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #26

"I should have known better that to step into this sky is falling thread." Yup way to much stupid cstanleytech Jul 2014 #27

HIV killed a lot of people. LisaL Jul 2014 #33

Ebola notadmblnd Jul 2014 #45

Viruses mutate. LisaL Jul 2014 #52

Well I'm sure you know best. notadmblnd Jul 2014 #58

they were in contact with local people outside the hospital magical thyme Jul 2014 #62

Yes and the chances of catching HIV without physical contact are about the same or in other words cstanleytech Jul 2014 #46

Or dying from the flu notadmblnd Jul 2014 #64

THIS! ^ DaDeacon Aug 2014 #75

New strains of influenza and new viruses like SARS and MERS are worrisome Marrah_G Aug 2014 #77

It has a much higher case fatality rate than influenza. Mojorabbit Aug 2014 #91

I'm with you. I hate when fear leads to panic. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #90

Swat teams and quarantine? Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #20

If US health care was so damn good, we would not have MRSA rates rising Divernan Jul 2014 #21

This person will be kept in a special isolation ward. passiveporcupine Jul 2014 #24

CDC guidelines to hospitals on MRSA have not worked Divernan Jul 2014 #30

I suspect the main problem combating mrsa is that alot of the health providers are carriers already. cstanleytech Jul 2014 #47

Big Pharma is falling down on this one. Divernan Jul 2014 #49

They want to continue making their billion$ with old drugs wordpix Aug 2014 #105

Weren't some viable smallpox vials found, unsecured and rattling around, recently? TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #23

Exactly. LisaL Jul 2014 #25

I've read that there is speculation in the field The Traveler Jul 2014 #39

Ebola + AirTravel = Death ....nt quadrature Jul 2014 #28

I play an infection game on my phone christx30 Jul 2014 #41

It's always Atlanta... Baclava Jul 2014 #42

Do you play DayZ? stonecutter357 Jul 2014 #43

How can a plane KT2000 Jul 2014 #44

Aeromedical Biological Containment System magical thyme Jul 2014 #63

Thanks for the info KT2000 Jul 2014 #67

I don't think so magical thyme Jul 2014 #68

Fine by me. Emory is about the best hospital in the world (I grew up blocks away). onehandle Jul 2014 #48

OMG onehandle, this is the kid of stuff that onecent Aug 2014 #95

They want them here to study them B2G Jul 2014 #50

Ebola vaccine trials to start in September. DhhD Jul 2014 #59

Agree. n/t kiranon Jul 2014 #66

Agree n/t Strelnikov_ Jul 2014 #70

^eom littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #86

Alive or dead, yes. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #93

I wish all involved well think Jul 2014 #51

They'd better hope that Sherman remains the worst person to visit. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #53

AH! General Sherman and his march to the sea. Divernan Aug 2014 #92

I know, I know d_r Jul 2014 #54

"Everything will turn out fine," said Ebbie the Ebola virus. "I've always wanted to visit America!" WinkyDink Jul 2014 #57

OK d_r Jul 2014 #60

You can almost flash forward in your mind and visualize the Congressional hearings TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #79

Huh? One woman spread it all over just by transferring. Worried? Ya! glinda Jul 2014 #65

I'm not worried by this Marrah_G Jul 2014 #69

And if it is as contagious (antigen shift) as some here think Strelnikov_ Aug 2014 #72

if it was airborne I would worry, but it is not. Marrah_G Aug 2014 #73

It very likely is. DeSwiss Aug 2014 #78

It could possibly be airborne... CoffeeCat Aug 2014 #83

Anything is possible Marrah_G Aug 2014 #87

True about Reston, but B2G Aug 2014 #94

Three American aid workers became infected.., CoffeeCat Aug 2014 #80

Two aid workers are infected, not three. LisaL Aug 2014 #82

Thank you for that clarification... CoffeeCat Aug 2014 #85

I'm not an expert as some here apparently are. notadmblnd Aug 2014 #96

from what I've read about this strain that the survival rate is much better TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #97

Well that's good news then. notadmblnd Aug 2014 #98

A PhD (molecular epidemiologist) friend agrees that this is insane. K&R n/t bobthedrummer Aug 2014 #101

US Ebola victim arrives at Emory University hospital in Atlanta muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #102

I remember when people said hospitals should not treat AIDS patients KinMd Aug 2014 #103

think about it - if you were visiting an African country and contracted Ebola wordpix Aug 2014 #104