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57. I believe it's anti semitism

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:18 AM

Aug 2014

I also am very concerned about the rise of anti semitism in europe.
This woman for all anyone knows has nothing to do with what Israel is doing, she's a jew, that is all we know about her, she's not in Israel, she's not even vaguely in the mid east, she's in europe for gods sake. I'm not jewish, I'm an atheist but this scares the hell out of me and just to be clear, if I am forced to pick sides in the mess, I lean more towards the people of gaza. I've avoided the israel-gaza threads because I think both sides are suicidal, I can't really defend either sides position although the people of gaza seem to be getting the worst of it. But this has nothing to do with my deep concern over the rising tide of anti semitism and fascism especially in europe.
Both sides of this conflict is adding to the fierce hatred of jews, arabs, muslims and persians, depending on where you are born.

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Belgian physician refuses to treat Jewish patient over Gaza op [View all] iandhr Jul 2014 OP

And anti Arabism is alive and well, particularly in Israel, Europe, America. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #12

sigh philip.chinery Aug 2014 #53

Have you ever seen an atom? Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #54

I've seen a lot of anti-Semitism and even more anti-Arabism. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #61

Belgium is under attack?! Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #66

So, because you've never seen it in person IronGate Aug 2014 #56

My suspicion. Igel Aug 2014 #153

yes, I'm against Israel's actions in Gaza, but this is unacceptable nt. Ex Lurker Jul 2014 #2

Unethical. DetlefK Jul 2014 #3

He should lose his license to practice or, at least, suspended from practice. IronGate Jul 2014 #4

Try getting an abortion at a Catholic hospital RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #13

why do we even have to make exception for religion? jamzrockz Jul 2014 #17

Because it puts personal autonomy Igel Aug 2014 #155

Badda bing! nt valerief Jul 2014 #36

Good point nt Tumbulu Aug 2014 #59

I condem this doctor in no uncertain terms RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #5

Westboro Baptist exercises its right to freedom of speech in an JDPriestly Jul 2014 #16

Collective punishment is still a war crime according to the Geneva Conventions n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #18

How do you think the Allies won WWII? JDPriestly Jul 2014 #23

Bombing Dresden and Japan were war crimes RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #32

Immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win is the key. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #41

Convenient of you to overlook the Occupation of Palestine by The Israelis. truedelphi Aug 2014 #64

Actually, I am taking into account the facts as the Allies saw them at the end of WWII. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #116

We might not see Israel's side to it presented on DU, but it is presented truedelphi Aug 2014 #124

IF WBC thought they could get away with it SwankyXomb Jul 2014 #34

If only anti-abortionists didn't shoot and kill doctors, too. nt valerief Jul 2014 #37

This is exactly what we don't need Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #6

That's a rotten thing to do Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #7

The doctor was flat out wrong. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #9

Yes. Yes it is. MrBig Jul 2014 #35

I don't think it is that simple. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #43

No, it really is that simple MrBig Aug 2014 #47

That is the poorest example of a counter argument I've think I've ever seen. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #78

Explain how they are vastly different MrBig Aug 2014 #83

+1000. IronGate Aug 2014 #125

He was wrong and it was anti-Semitism. Even as a one time occurrence of course it was bigotry. uppityperson Aug 2014 #98

As a doctor who hates Netanyahu's actions in Gaza cosmicone Jul 2014 #10

I agree 100%. LoisB Jul 2014 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #14

From your lips to Gods ears.. Peacetrain Jul 2014 #21

Very well said. [n/t] stranger81 Aug 2014 #142

Not cool. geardaddy Jul 2014 #15

Fuck Israel d_b Jul 2014 #19

Totally unacceptable treatment Peacetrain Jul 2014 #20

Indeed. The irony is that traditionally, both Christians and Muslims question everything Jul 2014 #22

this man is probably anti semitic to start with. how did he know she was Jewish. Did he decide roguevalley Jul 2014 #25

There is no mention of the doctor's name, or at least I don't see it. amandabeech Jul 2014 #24

Absolutely unacceptable. Aerows Jul 2014 #26

Isreal is stoking that anti-semitism with by creating a racist, apartheid state... mike_c Jul 2014 #27

Oh, the outrage! Beats talking about dead Palestinians. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #28

this is the type of thing right wingers say anytime a minority is attacked in the US JI7 Jul 2014 #33

So calling out anti-Semitism is wrong now? MrBig Jul 2014 #39

So we are supposed to be upset at only 1 type bigotry at a time? uppityperson Aug 2014 #99

Is it not possible to talk about both? LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #106

So you're excusing the doctor's anti-semitism? IronGate Aug 2014 #130

How sad JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #29

He is wrong but there is no denying that two months ago he would have had no problem CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #30

agreed. nt magical thyme Jul 2014 #38

Unacceptable and the doctor should be disbarred n/t intaglio Jul 2014 #31

Utter nonsense. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #44

No, he refused treatment intaglio Jul 2014 #46

Not disbarment, loss of license to practice medicine. nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #49

Doctors are struck off; not disbarred; but refusing to treat a patient because of their ethnic group LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #107

Out of line. Aristus Jul 2014 #40

Anti semitism is alive and well in a doctor in Belgium. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #42

Nonsense. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #45

So the doctor assumed that because she's Jewish, IronGate Aug 2014 #48

You are correct, but like the cleaning of a house.... Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #50

It is amazing, isn't it. IronGate Aug 2014 #51

Frankly nothing surprises me about DU anymore leftynyc Aug 2014 #73

What surprises me is how many find excuses to support the murder in Gaza. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #77

It's a war leftynyc Aug 2014 #81

There is no evidence this woman supports Israel MrBig Aug 2014 #103

"but it was only 1 time" and "he was provoked" uppityperson Aug 2014 #100

Even more amazing... Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #101

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The fact you can't see the difference is not suprising, but doesn't change the nature. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #139

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It doesn't change the fact it was anti-Semitic. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #143

That should have been my response to you...SEVERAL posts ago. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #144

Ask yourself leftynyc Aug 2014 #148

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One question. Guaguacoa Aug 2014 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #158

Without doubt! etherealtruth Aug 2014 #157

Nonsense. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #76

Hopeless MrBig Aug 2014 #104

OMG, what nonsense. IronGate Aug 2014 #111

Logic 101? IronGate Aug 2014 #132

This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have Guaguacoa Aug 2014 #151

he should follow the example of the brave Israeli doctors jberryhill Aug 2014 #52

Where do these "evacuees" go? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #69

I think you missed the point jberryhill Aug 2014 #72

What the fuck does that have to leftynyc Aug 2014 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #86

Unless that woman is massacring muslims Guaguacoa Aug 2014 #152

First, this board is thick with people "pissed about the Israelis," as is every liberal news site in LTX Aug 2014 #156

Wow, that's fucking vile Scootaloo Aug 2014 #55

It was wrong, but losing his license is much too drastic. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #80

No, it isn't. IronGate Aug 2014 #131

I believe it's anti semitism gwheezie Aug 2014 #57

No doctor should deny treatment to anyone. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #58

A doctor in Belgium is a raging asshole who should lose his license. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #60

Primum non nocere. longship Aug 2014 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #65

It is anti-Semitic. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #68

He was making an anti-Semitic point. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #70

it is anti semitism, it's like right wingers who think it's ok to treat black people badly JI7 Aug 2014 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #88

I can't tell if you're serious or trolling n/t MrBig Aug 2014 #92

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how dare i refer to bigots as "these people" JI7 Aug 2014 #117

These People=Bigots DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #145

I'm sure you'd be leftynyc Aug 2014 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #87

More bullshit leftynyc Aug 2014 #89

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This thread is not about I/P leftynyc Aug 2014 #97

What bullshit!!!!! IronGate Aug 2014 #119

Yes there is treatment for broken ribs, you wrap the affected ribs tightly to IronGate Aug 2014 #118

I don't think they wrap broken ribs anymore. Codeine Aug 2014 #126

As a Paramedic, yes we do, what happens at the hospital MAY be different, IronGate Aug 2014 #127

You are correct. In and of itself, this one incident is not anti-Semitic--it is anti Israel by proxy BillZBubb Aug 2014 #79

No, it's antisemitic. If the woman had been Israeli, it would have been anti-Israel; but she is a LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #109

It's unacceptable no matter what. PersonNumber503602 Aug 2014 #93

This is clear anti-semitism fujiyama Aug 2014 #122

Well that's a stupid post, its like refusing to treat a black person for the actions of Uganda. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2014 #128

Please note how many DUers responding to this thread do not see this as anti-semitism oberliner Aug 2014 #82

It's incredibly depressing MrBig Aug 2014 #84

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And you have the absolute right to be called out MrBig Aug 2014 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #135

So people in the US that refused Guaguacoa Aug 2014 #154

There are plenty of articles/postings on this site criticizing Israel and as far as I can tell PersonNumber503602 Aug 2014 #96

Who here is saying forgive Israel their actions because a doctor elsewhere acted on bigotry? uppityperson Aug 2014 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #114

Nobody is saying 'forgive the Israelis their transgressions because someone was antisemitic' LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #108

Thank you for this post MrBig Aug 2014 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #112

I am not a doctor - I am a researcher in an area slightly related to medicine LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #115

There is treatment for fractured ribs, wrap them tightly to prevent movement. nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #121

WTF are you talking about forgiving Israel for these "transgressions'? IronGate Aug 2014 #120

Hey Tumbulu, maybe you didn't notice, IronGate Aug 2014 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2014 #134

Not surprising at all leftynyc Aug 2014 #85

I'm disturbed by the excuses some posters are making fujiyama Aug 2014 #123

It's anti-Semitism. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #147

Who has used him to justify that? oberliner Aug 2014 #149

That is unforgivable LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #105

In the category of "Not Helping" booley Aug 2014 #129

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #137

I'm no fan of Israel's current policies of aggression, but this is not right. Liberal_from_va34 Aug 2014 #138

The man is a bigoted boor. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #146