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amandabeech

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52. You know, I didn't even watch the vid. My bad. My very bad.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:10 AM
Aug 2014

Liptnitskaya also did well in the junior ranks, but this was her first senior season.

Liptnitskaya has papers that say that she is 16, but she looks not more than 11, maybe 12. There are many young female skaters who do really well before the puberty monster hits them. And that's what it is called in skating: the puberty monster. The puberty monster turns skinny children into shapely young women. The physics of jumping and spinning do not allow for shapely young women to do the same things that they could do when they looked like children. Some skaters manage to make the transition--usually they are naturally fairly thin with "conservative" figures. Sotnikova, the gold medalist, at 17, has pretty much made the transition. Yu Na Kim, in her early 20s made it. Both had some really awkward years in between as they adjusted to a new center of gravity and a totally new body. Many do not make that transition. Liptnitskaya will grow in height and she will put on weight, which is healthy. What I don't want to see happening to Lip is what happened to Oksana Baiul in that her coach limited her calorie intake very severely and did not demand that what she ate was healthy so that she grew 3 inches and put on NO WEIGHT until after the next Olympics. When Baiul finally started eating, she had difficult turning the most difficult triples. And of course she fell apart psychologically due to her life story. It was awful to see, and still is. She is currently coaching in the NYC area.

Baiul did have skills on the ice other than jumping however. She was an excellent spinner and her basic skating skills were unmatched. I saw her in pro comps twice and I could just watch her stroke around the rink and do simply moves for hours. She was that good. She could also interpret just about any type of music. Had she not had a psychological meltdown, she would have had a much longer pro career and a better life now.

Lipnitskaya is not known for her musicality nor for her performance abilities. Her coach and choreographer were able to find her suitable music for the Olympic season that masked her weaknesses in these areas. We will see if Lipnitskaya skates as well in coming years as she did in her short program at the Olympics and at the World Championships. It is not a given, and I have seen too many very promising female skaters just disappear from the sport after a triumph in a child's body.

I stand by what I said about the pairs, however, which is a traditional Russian strength.

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They make there own military hardware whats he talking about bigdarryl Aug 2014 #1
Huh? 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #2
Besides guns, raw materials and vodka, does anyone buy anything from Russia? jmowreader Aug 2014 #4
And US makes a lot of manufactured consumer goods? LisaL Aug 2014 #19
We make a hell of a lot more of them than Russia does jmowreader Aug 2014 #25
Whatever the reasons, the end result is the same. LisaL Aug 2014 #50
We make high quality capital goods hack89 Aug 2014 #94
Nesting dolls? MoonchildCA Aug 2014 #43
Yeah voice_of_freezin Aug 2014 #7
Putin Says Russia’s Defense Industry Absolutely Self-Sufficient, Safe From Political Risk Purveyor Aug 2014 #13
channeling his inner george w nt msongs Aug 2014 #3
That was a stupid thing to say. rug Aug 2014 #5
I agree it wasn't a very helpful statement, but ... Alhena Aug 2014 #15
I agree. amandabeech Aug 2014 #23
If CIA wasn't trying to undermine Russia's buffer states' regimes cosmicone Aug 2014 #44
Fascinating interview. I think it was brilliant. joshcryer Aug 2014 #39
Fact? LisaL Aug 2014 #82
The President continues to run rings around his critics philosslayer Aug 2014 #92
Yep, I'm a bit surprised. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #86
Kinda like Wall Street Garthem Aug 2014 #6
BINGO.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #51
Dismissing the largest nation on earth with a flip comment. former9thward Aug 2014 #8
One of the largest, and... reACTIONary Aug 2014 #16
That emptiness has saved them on more than one occasion. former9thward Aug 2014 #17
Good on 'em, and... reACTIONary Aug 2014 #21
I assume you have never been there. former9thward Aug 2014 #22
I can confirm that... reACTIONary Aug 2014 #29
A nation of alcoholic bigots. joshcryer Aug 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL Aug 2014 #49
And what nation meets your standards? former9thward Aug 2014 #58
Any county that doesn't go after gays, for one. joshcryer Aug 2014 #65
Russian population is actually increasing. LisaL Aug 2014 #81
If not making things makes a government illegitimate, shouldn't Washington stop exporting our jobs? yurbud Aug 2014 #9
Very true. amandabeech Aug 2014 #24
Not true... reACTIONary Aug 2014 #33
I disagree with you on how we could handle it. amandabeech Aug 2014 #38
is this the real Obama or has he been compromised???? politicman Aug 2014 #10
Foreign policy is bipartisan and they same wealthy people wrote the script yurbud Aug 2014 #37
They do have nukes... reACTIONary Aug 2014 #11
Raging alcoholics don't count? Tom Ripley Aug 2014 #12
Shouldn't The Be Like US Wolf Frankula Aug 2014 #14
Oh wow. LisaL Aug 2014 #18
No fair, there's vodka shenmue Aug 2014 #20
Yeah! At least the US makes banking/stock related pyramid schemes. Ash_F Aug 2014 #26
They made one hell of an Olympics event, loved every minute of it, and oh btw, they make DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #27
Many people who really know skating thought that Yu Na Kim outskated her. amandabeech Aug 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author amandabeech Aug 2014 #41
That's not Sotnikova, that's Lipnitskaya. LisaL Aug 2014 #48
You know, I didn't even watch the vid. My bad. My very bad. amandabeech Aug 2014 #52
Does it make a difference?? n/t DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #69
Thank you very much for posting this! potone Aug 2014 #85
Well.... Xolodno Aug 2014 #28
If Russia is so great, why are so many of them coming here? Is it just for their organized crime kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #30
Uh...maybe I need to work on my english.... Xolodno Aug 2014 #32
What is the last thing you remember buying that had "Made in Russia" on it? mwooldri Aug 2014 #31
Bought 6 lacquer boxes for 840high Aug 2014 #46
Russia still makes and exports ushankas, considered by many the best winter hat. happyslug Aug 2014 #54
Not a happy face jakeXT Aug 2014 #61
Brezenzski's blowing in Obama's ear IkeRepublican Aug 2014 #34
Brezenzski's advice was for Ukraine to stay out of NATO but enter the Eurozone. amandabeech Aug 2014 #42
non-Nato ally status would work then jakeXT Aug 2014 #62
It's true, they are losing people and selling resources. But they still have a big military. freshwest Aug 2014 #35
The president should have kept that to himself. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #45
+10 840high Aug 2014 #47
Exactly. Plus ... cosmicone Aug 2014 #53
It's easy to overlook but..... FormerOstrich Aug 2014 #55
I like this new Obama madokie Aug 2014 #56
Obama forgot something. Russia makes lots and lots and lots and lots JDPriestly Aug 2014 #57
Well, good luck to the american astronauts... Kuroneko Aug 2014 #59
It is interesting in perspective to the entire interview that the media and some are obsessing davidpdx Aug 2014 #60
Maybe Obama just needs a link jakeXT Aug 2014 #63
"60 years old" isn't very old for life expectancy! Wonder why so young? The thing about Putin Cha Aug 2014 #68
Russia is 70.5 years, US is 78.7 (2012), Obama is lying for dubious purpose of propoganda whereisjustice Aug 2014 #72
Don't tell me about President Obama "lying" with that fucking homophobic Putin censoring the Cha Aug 2014 #76
Obama is, in fact, lying about Russian life expectancy, address Putin's lies on another thread whereisjustice Aug 2014 #77
If they live longer then he got it wrong.. Putin is the one who makes sure Russians who use the Cha Aug 2014 #79
It's 65 for men. joshcryer Aug 2014 #78
So only men count as having a life worth discussing? whereisjustice Aug 2014 #89
posted in wrong thread whereisjustice Aug 2014 #91
Stats without context are meaningless. Igel Aug 2014 #83
It was a Fox News/Pravda style lie by a sitting US President. 70.5 is the recognized number. whereisjustice Aug 2014 #88
Dropped to 59, partly because of smoking jakeXT Aug 2014 #96
You are saying that President Obama like on a Democratic site davidpdx Aug 2014 #90
Well they ARE making jobs... MattSh Aug 2014 #64
SOP for LBN dipsydoodle Aug 2014 #66
How fucking stupid. n/t DeSwiss Aug 2014 #67
Sounds like something Bush would say, doesn't it? whereisjustice Aug 2014 #73
George would remember they make vodka. :-\ n/t DeSwiss Aug 2014 #74
Good point, sounds like Mr. Obama had a few himself when he said that. whereisjustice Aug 2014 #75
Agreed n/t mazzarro Aug 2014 #80
Except oil, coal, timber, weapons and fraudulent financial products, sort of like the US whereisjustice Aug 2014 #70
Obama is not "blunt" here; he is being ignorant and insulting to THE nation that defeated Hitler WinkyDink Aug 2014 #71
Ah. The standard Soviet line. Igel Aug 2014 #84
OFGS, I used short-hand. I also said "Soviet." My father was in the BotB---I do know some things. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #98
Russia has 1/2 of US population. Produces 1/20 of US manufacturing. pampango Aug 2014 #87
Lotta haters in this thread. candelista Aug 2014 #93
Why the hair on fire? What he said is pretty accurate. Throd Aug 2014 #95
I don't know, it reminds me a bit of "they hate us for our freedoms" jakeXT Aug 2014 #97
Locking. Sissyk Aug 2014 #99
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