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In reply to the discussion: Obama: Russia doesn't make anything [View all]jakeXT
(10,575 posts)97. I don't know, it reminds me a bit of "they hate us for our freedoms"
When everyone is saying it, does it become true ?
3) The population is shrinking
Obamas statement is a perfect example of why I so frequently write about a topic as seemingly obscure and boring as Russian demography: people from the US political elite almost always make huge mistakes when talking about it. Russias population is not shrinking, it is growing. The Russian population isnt just growing in 2014, it also grew in 2013. And 2012. And 2011. And 2010. And 2009. Unless you get into a Bill Clinton-like debate over the meaning of the word is, its impossible to argue that Russias population is shrinking. It was shrinking in the past and it is likely to shrink in the future, but it is not shrinking at the present moment. Not a very complicated concept.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/08/04/3-things-barack-obama-got-wrong-about-russia/
Obamas statement is a perfect example of why I so frequently write about a topic as seemingly obscure and boring as Russian demography: people from the US political elite almost always make huge mistakes when talking about it. Russias population is not shrinking, it is growing. The Russian population isnt just growing in 2014, it also grew in 2013. And 2012. And 2011. And 2010. And 2009. Unless you get into a Bill Clinton-like debate over the meaning of the word is, its impossible to argue that Russias population is shrinking. It was shrinking in the past and it is likely to shrink in the future, but it is not shrinking at the present moment. Not a very complicated concept.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/08/04/3-things-barack-obama-got-wrong-about-russia/
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Purveyor
Aug 2014
#13
If not making things makes a government illegitimate, shouldn't Washington stop exporting our jobs?
yurbud
Aug 2014
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They made one hell of an Olympics event, loved every minute of it, and oh btw, they make
DocwillCuNow
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If Russia is so great, why are so many of them coming here? Is it just for their organized crime
kelliekat44
Aug 2014
#30
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happyslug
Aug 2014
#54
Brezenzski's advice was for Ukraine to stay out of NATO but enter the Eurozone.
amandabeech
Aug 2014
#42
It's true, they are losing people and selling resources. But they still have a big military.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#35
It is interesting in perspective to the entire interview that the media and some are obsessing
davidpdx
Aug 2014
#60
"60 years old" isn't very old for life expectancy! Wonder why so young? The thing about Putin
Cha
Aug 2014
#68
Russia is 70.5 years, US is 78.7 (2012), Obama is lying for dubious purpose of propoganda
whereisjustice
Aug 2014
#72
Don't tell me about President Obama "lying" with that fucking homophobic Putin censoring the
Cha
Aug 2014
#76
Obama is, in fact, lying about Russian life expectancy, address Putin's lies on another thread
whereisjustice
Aug 2014
#77
If they live longer then he got it wrong.. Putin is the one who makes sure Russians who use the
Cha
Aug 2014
#79
It was a Fox News/Pravda style lie by a sitting US President. 70.5 is the recognized number.
whereisjustice
Aug 2014
#88
Except oil, coal, timber, weapons and fraudulent financial products, sort of like the US
whereisjustice
Aug 2014
#70
Obama is not "blunt" here; he is being ignorant and insulting to THE nation that defeated Hitler
WinkyDink
Aug 2014
#71