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happyslug

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48. I like the two photos of the 155 mm Howitzer shell, someone forgot to put in the fuse.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 07:38 PM
Aug 2014

155 mm Howitzers shells consists of three parts, the bad changes, the round itself and the fuse. The Charges and the Round itself are stored together for use. The Fuse is stored in another location. The fuse cost anywhere from $100 to a Couple of hundred dollars, the Shell and Charges, maybe $20. The fuse sets off the round. Without a fuse the round will NOT explode, and thus why that round was found intact and later hauled away for they is nothing to go "bang" in them except under certain situations. Moder explosives are very stable unless ignited by a Charge from the Fuse.

The photos shows a 155 mm Round without a fuse, which should be screwed on the front of the round. No Fuse no bang. On the other hand, in the right hands, the round could be made deadly, it does NOT take much. Someone was in a hurry handled the round to the loader who loaded the round, the gunner close the breach behind the round and fired the round. If it was a one round mission, which I doubt, they waited for a blast and none came.

On the other hand, the Howitzer was set, the fire mission called for, someone forgot to screw in the fuse, but the round was picked up, probably as the person in charge of setting the fuse was doing so on another round, given to the loader, who loaded the round then the charges, yelled "I see Red" and gunner closed the breech and fired the round. Then the gunner opened the breech, and a round with a fuse was loaded and fired. No one even noticed that the first round did not go off.

The phase "I See Red" is what 155 gunners say after the last charge in loaded, the base charge is always RED for it is the charge the igniting system is design to burn first. Thus the 155 mm has to have that red charge showing when the breech is closed, thus the saying "I See Red" meaning the Round is loaded AND the charge is loaded correctly.

What I have forgotten about 155 howitzers is immense, I was in a 105 mm Artillery unit, but I was trained on 155 mm howitzers in basic but only as a side line. The 155 does NOT use a brass cartridge, as the 105 mm round did. The 155 mm also used "charges" not the "Bags" used by 105 mm (Through both were called "Charges&quot . Thus my knowledge of 155 mm howitzers are limited, but that is clearly a 155 mm round AND it does NOT have a fuse, that is clear, for the same fuse was usable on the 155 mm round, the 105 mm round and the 4.2 inch Mortar rounds, going through the Howitzers and Mortars I fired when I was in the National Guard.

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I don't believe this propaganda. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #1
Some pictures here alsame Aug 2014 #2
You got me. No one other than an Israeli could have written that. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #3
Wasn't trying to 'get you', only alsame Aug 2014 #7
Failing a DNA tgest and/or video and/or an admission Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #8
And why do you see this as propaganda? starroute Aug 2014 #37
The Best properganda has always been the truth happyslug Aug 2014 #47
I like the two photos of the 155 mm Howitzer shell, someone forgot to put in the fuse. happyslug Aug 2014 #48
Neither do they 4now Aug 2014 #6
They are just following their leaders example 4now Aug 2014 #4
Are we BDSing everyone that deserves it SnakeEyes Aug 2014 #52
Interesting leftynyc Aug 2014 #5
I agree cabot Aug 2014 #9
What a sad and odious dodge. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #12
Sigh leftynyc Aug 2014 #17
Dodging again. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #26
Must this spiral down to obnoxious attacks? George II Aug 2014 #46
I see no picture. n/t cpwm17 Aug 2014 #33
Do you see a link? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #41
"Unmitigated hate speech"? Example? George II Aug 2014 #45
Not really very suspicious. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #18
But WHY leftynyc Aug 2014 #20
Most Israelis do not speak Arabic, in fact. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #22
All the Israeli's I know leftynyc Aug 2014 #23
And none of the ones I know do. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #25
So of course it makes perfect sense leftynyc Aug 2014 #29
When both are likely to share English as a second language? Yep. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #32
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This is just how far SnakeEyes Aug 2014 #53
Sigh - I could just as easily say leftynyc Aug 2014 #61
So? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #27
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You immediately sought to blame the victims JackRiddler Aug 2014 #40
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"hideous demonic" lol SnakeEyes Aug 2014 #54
Some of here are actually old enough SnakeEyes Aug 2014 #55
Those of us old enough (and who see through the fog) remember who supported Hamas' founding long The Stranger Aug 2014 #63
WRONG leftynyc Aug 2014 #60
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There is nothing you won't excuse or deny on this topic. Marrah_G Aug 2014 #38
+1000 I'm not convinced wordpix Aug 2014 #44
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More Hamas lies, and in English for mass consumption seveneyes Aug 2014 #11
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It's not mandatory for Muslims and Christians. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #59
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Up is down, black is white. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #15
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Since time immemorial... JackRiddler Aug 2014 #51
"Hamas did it" Rapillion Aug 2014 #56
you should read whats written riverwalker Aug 2014 #57
Both sides are all screwed up. none of this will be solved in any of our lifetimes. WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2014 #62
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