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12. Senator David Norris" Israel bombs first and weeps later".

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Sat Aug 9, 2014, 03:35 PM

Aug 2014

Watch his impassioned speech to the Irish Senate yourself on Youtube.

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Irish senator blasts Israel as �right-wing regime� committing �criminal� acts in epic rant [View all] Galraedia Aug 2014 OP

Yes indeed it is a rag that is constantly waved to justify anything - n/t mazzarro Aug 2014 #1

Meanwhile Israel allows freedoms that you are stoned for or beheading for in Palestine. abovesobelow Aug 2014 #2

And? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #21

this^ 2banon Aug 2014 #35

and lets not pretend israel's issues with palestinians have anything to do with gay rights JI7 Aug 2014 #42

+ Infinity and a banana split. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #56

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #23

Why do you have to jump to "jew-haters"? Criticism of the Israeli government is just not the same gtar100 Aug 2014 #29

The post has been unanimously hidden alp227 Aug 2014 #49

Posting privildges have been revoked. happyslug Aug 2014 #58

Pssst.. If you're trying to shut down discussion by accusing everyone that criticizes Israel notadmblnd Aug 2014 #31

it's not a joke, california having gay rights doesn't excuse the bigoted thugs attacking immigrant JI7 Aug 2014 #43

aah, the old pink washing talking points. m-lekktor Aug 2014 #32

the US should not be criticized on the war in Iraq because gays and women have it better in the US JI7 Aug 2014 #39

if you care about gay rights than fight for those rights but don't use it as an excuse to oppress JI7 Aug 2014 #40

i don't believe being gay is illegal among palestinians , most of the problem is more within society JI7 Aug 2014 #44

"hypocrisy and contextual ignorance" Martin Eden Aug 2014 #62

Why do they have to mention that he's "openly gay"? What does that have to do with the story? 7962 Aug 2014 #3

Because if they didn't, Aboveshadow couldn't have a point. Hoppy Aug 2014 #6

Because he is internationally renowned for his successful fight for gay rights Divernan Aug 2014 #8

I'm aware of his fight for gay rights. But it still has nothing to do with israel 7962 Aug 2014 #34

Because if Buzz Aldrin ever commented on some policy, Calista241 Aug 2014 #77

Those are professional accomplishments. Might as well point out he has green eyes too. 7962 Aug 2014 #81

It doesn't have shit to do with Israel. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #80

What would either a black person or gay person know about violent oppression? DRoseDARs Aug 2014 #14

Quite valid point! Divernan Aug 2014 #18

Blacks & gays had no choice in their oppression. Hamas was chosen by Gazans. 7962 Aug 2014 #36

Palestinians were being oppressed long before Hamas. Galraedia Aug 2014 #41

They started warring from day ONE. And blacks and gays never attacked anyone. 7962 Aug 2014 #51

Baloney. Hamas only came into being because of the occupation and mistreatment of Palestinians. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #53

Palestinians had their own state in '47, refused it, and went to war instead 7962 Aug 2014 #55

Total baloney. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #57

No, they DID have a choice. They were given their own state similar to Israel. 7962 Aug 2014 #64

Yet no mention of Hamas atrocities seveneyes Aug 2014 #4

Any links to prove your claim of Hamas "abuse toward gays and women"?Any?Please? Divernan Aug 2014 #9

from wikipedia...not abuse, just killed. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #13

So you rely on an Israeli's claim in which Wikipedia simply quotes the Israeli - Divernan Aug 2014 #17

I would not make it out of Gaza alive King_David Aug 2014 #59

You fail to provide a SCINTILLA of proof for your claim! Divernan Aug 2014 #60

Hamas say gays are perverts will be punished if they win elections King_David Aug 2014 #63

Your 2005 link has NO picture of Zahar & speculates re "punishment", not killing. Divernan Aug 2014 #65

Hamas never won election ? King_David Aug 2014 #66

Your link was in 2005; Hamas won election in 2006. Divernan Aug 2014 #68

Hamas are among the most regressive homophobic gay hating King_David Aug 2014 #69

Please stop pretending that Israel is some sort of beacon of tolerance and liberalism. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #70

Oh now we are talking about something else King_David Aug 2014 #71

That was someone else's red herring, not mine Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #72

I was talking about the bigotry and extreme right wing homophobia King_David Aug 2014 #73

And I'm talking about the bigotry and extreme racism in Israel. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #74

"Hamas is not the same thing as the Palestinians" King_David Aug 2014 #75

I don't know, bombs are pretty deadly. /nt Ash_F Aug 2014 #79

I guess it's ok to mow all of Palestine down with bombs then! m-lekktor Aug 2014 #33

This is a lie Laughing Mirror Aug 2014 #76

Senator Norris is a legendary gay rights and civil rights hero in Ireland. Divernan Aug 2014 #5

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This message was self-deleted by its author 2banon Aug 2014 #19

.... abelenkpe Aug 2014 #24

Cog Dis x 1000000000000 2banon Aug 2014 #37

K&R Grey Aug 2014 #10

Pffffffft!!!!!!! ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #11

I know right? Nt abelenkpe Aug 2014 #25

LOL. n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #27

Senator David Norris" Israel bombs first and weeps later". Divernan Aug 2014 #12

Gaza Speech Makes David Norris YouTube's Top Political Hit Divernan Aug 2014 #16

Wow! He pulls no punches. May he hasten the day when each country (e.g., the US) Stevepol Aug 2014 #20

Don't forget the profit motive. US/MIC profiteering. Israel/taking over PA's oil fields. Divernan Aug 2014 #22

There is nothing quite like an Irishman in full rant. Brigid Aug 2014 #26

Yes, indeed and don't forget the Scots! 2banon Aug 2014 #38

Or an Irish woman swilton Aug 2014 #52

POWERFUL SPEECH. Will make the Israeli apologists furious. Divernan Aug 2014 #61

Can you imagine George W or Barack Obama at Question Time? Calista241 Aug 2014 #78

God bless the Irish. Brigid Aug 2014 #67

K&R NealK Aug 2014 #28

I'd love to know what he considers that halcyon period of Israeli when he owned a home there. oberliner Aug 2014 #30

He's not the only one to make such comparisons. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #45

I'm just asking what the "good Israel" period was oberliner Aug 2014 #46

I'd guess it would be before 1967? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #47

Just checked Wikipedia - looks like 1975-1985 oberliner Aug 2014 #48

Take note America: extreme right-wing regimes typically behave in the most criminal fashion, defying indepat Aug 2014 #50

The truth! nt BillZBubb Aug 2014 #54